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Old 01-01-2007, 02:01 PM   #11 (permalink)
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People hate on Diego because he is young, cocky and undefeated. Until he beats a top tier guy (Joe Riggs is NOT top tier) he will then be taken seriously.
He beat Karo's ass to win by clear decision in a fight which wouldn't have gone to the judges at all if it lasted 90 seconds longer, and Karo was considered the #2 contender at the time...in fact he actually had a title fight lined up but had to pull out due to injury...after Diego beat his ass that decisively, how can folks claim he hasn't defeated someone in the top tier?

The only tier there is left is Matt or GSP, period. So someone is either a chump or a champ, and there's no middle ground?! That's ridiculous.
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I take Diego seriously but Diego pretty much said his self that he wasn't ready for GSP yet.
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Old 01-01-2007, 02:04 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Tell you what. Now that you're a member of the BEST MMA forum (as he brown nose's Clint), go the Pic/Video section. There are a Gazillion fights for you to watch and hopefully you'll change your mind.
Thanks...I'll wander on over there...mind you, I'm a virgin to this forum, but not to MMA I've been a very avid fan for close to a year now and have watched hundreds of fights.

Diego's a sentimental favorite to me because I like his energy, his relentlessness, and his belief in himself, and because he was the first fighter I "imprinted" on when starting to watch MMA...I don't believe he's the best fighter on earth or anything, he's just my favorite fighter.
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I don't see how BJ Penn is not in this category.
Fair enough. In terms of fighting ability, yes I'd unreservedly agree that Penn is right in that category, and I was wrong to leave him out.

However, in terms of record, results against steadily higher competition, etc, Penn is not more qualified than Diego to challenge for a title at this time.
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Thanks...I'll wander on over there...mind you, I'm a virgin to this forum, but not to MMA I've been a very avid fan for close to a year now and have watched hundreds of fights.

Diego's a sentimental favorite to me because I like his energy, his relentlessness, and his belief in himself, and because he was the first fighter I "imprinted" on when starting to watch MMA...I don't believe he's the best fighter on earth or anything, he's just my favorite fighter.
I don't like many of the TUF fighters, and it took the Karo fight for Sanchez to earn my respect. He has beat everyone they put in front of him, but still he's just WEIRD.
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to more wins against top competition and diego gets a shot
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I like Diego as a fighter, the dude has the desire and will to win mentally...which is about 90% of the game to me.

I would say the Top 3 Matt, BJ and GSP are pretty much on a tier by themselves and are pretty even, with GSP being a bit better than both Matt and BJ now.

But Diego needs to fight BJ or Matt before a title shot, I think it will be BJ.

I think Diego would probably lose a decision to any of the top 3 though.
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You misquote me my friend Or at least only partially quote me.

BJ Penn's talent makes him a contender in that division. But he's had two title shots now, and against Matt and GSP he is a combined 1-2. He's lost what, 2 of his last 3 UFC fights, or 3 of 4, something like that?

Diego is 19-0 and has yet to fight (and/or lose to) either GSP or Matt. He's faced gradually tougher competition (including Karo, see my post earlier - Karo was actually in line for a title fight) and beaten them all...in terms of record, record against the best and performance against increasing competition, he has earned a title shot more than BJ Penn has earned one.

I'm not saying he's a better fighter or speaking ill of Penn :grinsmile26: I give BJ Penn mad props.
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You misquote me my friend Or at least only partially quote me.

BJ Penn's talent makes him a contender in that division. But he's had two title shots now, and against Matt and GSP he is a combined 1-2. He's lost what, 2 of his last 3 UFC fights, or 3 of 4, something like that?

Diego is 19-0 and has yet to fight (and/or lose to) either GSP or Matt. He's faced gradually tougher competition (including Karo, see my post earlier - Karo was actually in line for a title fight) and beaten them all...in terms of record, record against the best and performance against increasing competition, he has earned a title shot more than BJ Penn has earned one.

I'm not saying he's a better fighter or speaking ill of Penn :grinsmile26: I give BJ Penn mad props.
i'm a diego fan, gotta support my homeboys from new mexico, but he's going to have to beat either penn or hughes to get a shot, possibly both
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