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[Palma]

Originally Posted by Ubermensch

Dude you mean Pankration where Pancrase got its name.... And man I have really learned to hate you. You come in here with your lame ideas trying to F**K up this sport that you suposedly love and change it into some stupid circus. I seriously cant stand you!!!

I don't think he means anything by it. I think he's really into the organazational aspect of the sport, which is an important part of it. Before there were organizations that put on fights, every one had to drive down to Sr. Froggies in Tiawanna and watch fights in the basement. You are obviously very pasionate about the sport, but people are going to post some out-there threads now and then. I don't think it's that big of a deal.

[jjhk001]

Originally Posted by Diegonightmare

Uh, what do you mean "comes closest to"? Unarmed hand to hand combat is precisely what it is.

Actually, no. Unarmed hand to hand combat is actually no holds barred fighting - precisely what the fighting in the UFC and Pride is NOT. Unarmed hand to hand combat is what two enemy soldiers, who are unarmed would engage in when they fight. They will use any means necesarry - punching, kicking, biting, eye gouging, soft tissue strike, etc. to make sure they are the one surviving.

[SimpleJack]

You mean you are a fan of the blood and guts and not the heart of the sport, the respect and true competition. The Bushido side of it if you will. People like you will ultimately ruin this sport. No disrespect meant to you. I have just competed too long and studied too hard for fucking NASCAR rednecks to come in and think my sport needs a COOL NAME and more KO's to keep the trailers hoppin.

[Ubermensch]

No, actually I mean Pancrase, the Japanese MMA Organization. Pankration is what the ancient Greeks called it. Quoting exactly from Pancrase's website: The origin of the name PANCRASE dates back to the ancient Greeks who had a sport competition called PANKRATION. If you want to learn more about it, check out their website, and do your homework: http://www.pancrase.co.jp/en/

First please read more throughly next time before you post...P.S. I noticed it took you a while to find that info after I posted it for you glad to help you learn more about our sport.

P.S. look at my posts they speak for them selves the only time I jump on some one is when they in my mind are being uncourteous to the sport. Now let me explain You who are obviously a new fan (I have read your questions to clint and it is obvious) come to a long tradition of a sport, that is why I had to correct you and say Pankration to you, and pose to change the very thing we have fought long and hard to have accepted by the mainstream. And now that it is becoming widely accepted we get guys like you wanting to change the whole aspect of the SPORT and the gist of what it is. We train long and hard to fight in these situations and to have someone like you not care about the skill and time we put into it and think it is just some blood sport hence your statement " I like the raw, savage and violent aspect of MMA," is quite insulting in and of itself. That is my problem with your posts and anyone that likes to put it with Prowrestling or make a joke out of it. People work hard to be able to fight in MMA and back in the day it certainly wasn't about the money. We have come a long way the fans and the athletes and to have some people like you want it to be a side show is just plane lame.

[Ubermensch]

Originally Posted by Palma Wrestler

I don't think he means anything by it. I think he's really into the organazational aspect of the sport, which is an important part of it. Before there were organizations that put on fights, every one had to drive down to Sr. Froggies in Tiawanna and watch fights in the basement. You are obviously very pasionate about the sport, but people are going to post some out-there threads now and then. I don't think it's that big of a deal.

Thanks PW for getting the pic. And I am a little hard on guys like him Lilmac and Dominious (sp?) just read above and get and understanding. But I think Lilmac and Dominious add much of the time to the board though

DonFrye obviously Understands even before I posted.

[Palma]

Originally Posted by Ubermensch

Thanks PW for getting the pic. And I am a little hard on guys like him Lilmac and Dominious (sp?) just read above and get and understanding.

I understand where you comming from in the sense that you want the sport to be viewed a certain way. I think your respect for the sport is very admirable. I guess my only problem with slamming someone is when it is based on past conversations or posts more then the thread at hand. You totally have the right to feel the way you do, but if you keep slamming this guy for comming up with unusual threads you're going to look like an asshole. And believe me, I know everything about looking like an asshole here. I actually like that he comes up with something different then "who has the best body?", "Should Vera drop to 205" (for the third time), and "Liddell vs. Wanderlie" (for the tenth time)

He has a different passion for the sport that I think needs recognition, but you are free (obviously) to be traditional about the sport.

[Ubermensch]

The Funny thing is JJ seems to be a bright guy just ignorant and I do love his passion in and of itself. I think once he learns about the sport he will understand I Just don't like his inconsideration to the sport and its history may of the times and it get's me fired up. Hey JJ O
ll try and take a chill pill but please stop treating this like it is just entertainment.

[Palma]

Originally Posted by Ubermensch

The Funny thing is JJ seems to be a bright guy just ignorant and I do love his passion in and of itself. I think once he learns about the sport he will understand I Just don't like his inconsideration to the sport and its history may of the times and it get's me fired up. Hey JJ O
ll try and take a chill pill but please stop treating this like it is just entertainment.

I think it's good you are here to give him a fighter's perspective on MMA as well as an extream traditionalist, lol. Now, he is beginning to know what is offensive and what isn't.

[jesusatemyhotdog]

I think instead of MMA it should be called Hybrid Super Combat Blood Fight.

Either that or Tittyjam.

[SimpleJack]

Fuzzy Pumpkin Patch Pummeling??