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[Salvy_Mic]

Originally Posted by TheBranMan

not necessarily, joe stevenson lost to josh neer in his first fight after winning TUF2. but yeah, rampage said he wouldn't fight tito if tito was the champ, but i got a feeling that if rampage was champ tito would wanna fight him.

And that would be the biggest irony in MMA.

[mmafightfan]

Tito and Rampage have both said they won't fight each other (too bad). And I don't care about Kendall Grove. They'll probably feed him another can in his next fight.

[Trustym2]

Originally Posted by Soul_Edge

Not with how Zuffa brings up the TUF winners. He won't lose for at least 3 more fights easy, not to mention he is a solid fighter.

Solid fighter I agree, but I disagree with what you say about how Zuffa brings up the TUF winners. Yeah, the don't give them the top of the food chain, but that's cause they are still learning. But they don't give them all easy guys either. Herman lost his first fight after TUF. I know he wasn't technically the winner, but they gave him the contract, they wouldn't do that just to have him lose all his fights.

[Soul_Edge]

Yes Herman and Stevenson lost, but were they expected to lose? No, no way in hell. It worked out because MacDonald has proven to be a good fighter. Josh Neer is a TUFfer stepping stone. Who has Rashad fought? Jason Lambert? Come on, you can't deny to give they cans for atleast 3 fights. After that, if they are popular them move up. Giving Forrest a fight with Tito and Diego against Karo are examples of that. They don't baby them forever, but for about the first year or so.

[DW]

Originally Posted by tmatwig

Anybody heard anything about him, i want to see him again and i think he is about due for a fight, and i was looking at pictures and showed rampage and tito training together at big bear, did they ever say if they would fight each other or not, if rampage wins the lhw title tito would have to go through him to get his precious belt back, anyway how many title chances should one person get

has Grove recovered from the broken arm/wrist?

[tmatwig]

i am not sure if healthy or not, last i heard about him he was helping tito train for his fight against chuck

[DW]

I took this photo in october following his fight with Chris Price, his exact words were "its broke"

[TapOut27]

Originally Posted by TheBranMan

not necessarily, joe stevenson lost to josh neer in his first fight after winning TUF2. but yeah, rampage said he wouldn't fight tito if tito was the champ, but i got a feeling that if rampage was champ tito would wanna fight him.

Joe was last on team punishment and has been doing great at LW since moving there.

[Beatts35]

Grove won't br back till the spring, he's going to have some ring rust to shake off

rampage and tito have said they won't fight eacother. rampage really holds tito up in a high light. he's said "tito's the only white dude i'ld let call me n*gg@ with the er"

i like tito but judging from his past actions if it was rampage or the belt he would give up his friendship to fight him.

[DW]

Originally Posted by Beatts35

Grove won't br back till the spring, he's going to have some ring rust to shake off

rampage and tito have said they won't fight eacother. rampage really holds tito up in a high light. he's said "tito's the only white dude i'ld let call me n*gg@ with the er"

i like tito but judging from his past actions if it was rampage or the belt he would give up his friendship to fight him.

after running from him for a couple years he would