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[W.Silva>C.Norris]

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

Ike Sonnen, meet Tina Bisping. Have y'all met?

You win the internet.

[goodtimes]

Originally Posted by K1NG P3NN

Um...Nate Marquardt? Okami? Miller? Didnt finish them, but I vividly remember him tooling Nate, and it was pretty impressive, when he was about a minute from beating Silva as well.

Marquardt almost subbed Sonnen, and opened up a huge cut on his face. Sonnen clearly won, but it wasn't exactly a "tooling".

Anyways, what I think dexter is referring to is that everyone is acting like Sonnen is going to physically kill Bisping, even though Sonnen wins on points and hasn't really caused any damage to anyone he's fought in the UFC. Usually, he comes out looking worse. If Sonnen beats Bisping, I seriously doubt Bisping will get stopped or take that much damage. Most likely he'll get taken down a lot but defend well from his back.

[Chute_Boxe44]

Originally Posted by goodtimes

Marquardt almost subbed Sonnen, and opened up a huge cut on his face. Sonnen clearly won, but it wasn't exactly a "tooling".

Anyways, what I think dexter is referring to is that everyone is acting like Sonnen is going to physically kill Bisping, even though Sonnen wins on points and hasn't really caused any damage to anyone he's fought in the UFC. Usually, he comes out looking worse. If Sonnen beats Bisping, I seriously doubt Bisping will get stopped or take that much damage. Most likely he'll get taken down a lot but defend well from his back.

No man, that was the definition of a tooling

He hit him with an elbow from the bottom that cut him open, and slapped on a guillotine with like a minute left in the fight. So because of that it wasn't a utter beat down?

Any fight where someone wins every rounds decisively and also should have earned a 10-8 in one of the rounds (the second round) should clearly be labeled as a "tooling".

Its one of those fights where its actually embarrassing to watch for poor Nate, because everyone was talking about him and Silva before this fight even happened.

[FCK]

Originally Posted by goodtimes

Marquardt almost subbed Sonnen, and opened up a huge cut on his face. Sonnen clearly won, but it wasn't exactly a "tooling".

Anyways, what I think dexter is referring to is that everyone is acting like Sonnen is going to physically kill Bisping, even though Sonnen wins on points and hasn't really caused any damage to anyone he's fought in the UFC. Usually, he comes out looking worse. If Sonnen beats Bisping, I seriously doubt Bisping will get stopped or take that much damage. Most likely he'll get taken down a lot but defend well from his back.

Bisping would almost do good taking some pages off Overeem training for Lesnar, as he's really looking to defend just the takedowns, without having to be worried about being TKO from super bombs.

If Bisping puts in a solid performance though, I don't think anyone could doubt his top 10 ranking, as he would have hung with the no.2* MW in the world. I mean Sonnen, Munoz and Maia has never fought Wandy or Belfort, 2 of the most aggressive dangerous vet strikers in MW. The MW top 10 rankings is very askew, as Munoz and Maia were both in a position to rank up massively over opponents that they didn't necessarily deserve IMO. I mean if Maia had won against Bisping, then he would of face Chael/Munoz (again) for the belt, and gotten a title shot after 3 wins. Wacky.

I'm very happy the logical fight is finally happening.

[lwbrewer]

One reason some got a title shot simple was being avalible when others got injuried and Maia was one

[goodtimes]

Originally Posted by Chute_Boxe44

No man, that was the definition of a tooling

He hit him with an elbow from the bottom that cut him open, and slapped on a guillotine with like a minute left in the fight. So because of that it wasn't a utter beat down?

Any fight where someone wins every rounds decisively and also should have earned a 10-8 in one of the rounds (the second round) should clearly be labeled as a "tooling".

Its one of those fights where its actually embarrassing to watch for poor Nate, because everyone was talking about him and Silva before this fight even happened.

Then your definition of tooling is very different from mine. Sonnen ended up taking a bit of damage, and he was almost stopped. Who cares if it was at the end of the fight, it still happened. Marquardt came closer to finishing the fight then Sonnen did. Hell, if it was 5 rounds Marquardt still would have had a good chance of winning it on cuts or on a sub.

[Masscore]

Originally Posted by goodtimes

Then your definition of tooling is very different from mine. Sonnen ended up taking a bit of damage, and he was almost stopped. Who cares if it was at the end of the fight, it still happened. Marquardt came closer to finishing the fight then Sonnen did. Hell, if it was 5 rounds Marquardt still would have had a good chance of winning it on cuts or on a sub.

Sonnen landed 214 strikes compated to Marqardt's 37... how is 6 to 1 strike ratio not a tooling?

[Chute_Boxe44]

Originally Posted by goodtimes

Then your definition of tooling is very different from mine. Sonnen ended up taking a bit of damage, and he was almost stopped. Who cares if it was at the end of the fight, it still happened. Marquardt came closer to finishing the fight then Sonnen did. Hell, if it was 5 rounds Marquardt still would have had a good chance of winning it on cuts or on a sub.

Great argument

[FCK]

Originally Posted by Masscore

Sonnen landed 214 strikes compated to Marqardt's 37... how is 6 to 1 strike ratio not a tooling?

Because Nate probably considered it a gentle vigorous face massage

[goodtimes]

Originally Posted by Masscore

Sonnen landed 214 strikes compated to Marqardt's 37... how is 6 to 1 strike ratio not a tooling?

90% of those strikes didn't do anything and were not thrown with any power. Sonnen and Fitch always have a large volume of strikes, but usually don't do much damage. Probably the most one sided fight ever, Anderson Silva vs Forrest Griffin, Griffin outlanded Silva 16-15. Throwing short ineffective punches on the ground doesn't really mean anything, it just keeps the ref from standing it up.