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Terrorism | Define Terrorism at Dictionary.com



I know dictionary.com is not the best source but I just wanted a quick definition.

It could easily be defined as terrorism, the hackers are using acts of violence (against UFC property) & threats (by releasing DW's info - yes not a direct threat but we all get the point) to push a political agenda or purpose (Anti - SOPA ideals).

The hackers are attacking the UFC for supporting SOPA and Dana for being a loud mouth who supports SOPA. I would say it fits the definition of terrorism,

But then again, one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.
Dude you totally beat me to it haha

The way these Dbags are reacting is a mild case of terrorism
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I'm not really a Dana basher and think he gets flak for some thing he shouldn't however in this case he opened his mouth when he shouldn't have and things are gonna come his way deserves he picked a fight he's not gonna win. At best he'll spend a fortune on a computer security firm that will spend alot of time trying to fix weaknesses as new ones are found and exploited.

If you have any personal information you might on UFC sites you probably wanna get that deleted if you can.

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Terrorists??? LMFAO, so now a hacker and a terrorist is the same thing??
While I wouldn't exactly put this group up there with Al Qaeda hacking can be considered an act of terrorism.

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What government fell from an Internet Organization?
American sattelites have been hacked into by Chinese and it has been documented.

There have been organizations in some countries attack other countries citizens personal information:

Cyber War : Another 7000 Israel credit cards Exposed on Internet | The Hacker News (THN)

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Kosova Hacker's Security Group of Hackers today claim to release another Another 7000 Israel credit cards on Internet.

More, Saudi cyber Hacker OxOmar struck again last Monday by disrupted the websites of Israel's stock exchange and National air carrier. Israel is facing with a true escalation in cyberwar.
And that story was just 8 days ago.

The largest documented attack on a country specifically was on Estonia. Estonian parliament, banks, ministries, newspapers and broadcasters were targeted.

Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet accused the Kremlin of direct involvement in the cyberattacks. Sergei Markov of the Russian State Duma (Federal Assembly of Russia) stated his unnamed aide was responsible in orchestrating the cyber attacks. Markov alleged the aide acted on his own while residing in an unrecognised republic of the former Soviet Union, possibly Transnistria.

In 2009 Konstantin Goloskokov, a "commissar" of the Kremlin-backed youth group Nashi, has claimed responsibility for the attack.

The problem in Estonia was all about a Russian World War II war memorial from downtown Tallinn. The attack was a distributed denial-of-service attack in which selected sites were bombarded with traffic to force them offline; nearly all Estonian government ministry networks as well as two major Estonian bank networks were knocked offline; in addition, the political party website of Estonia's current Prime Minister Andrus Ansip featured a counterfeit letter of apology from Ansip for removing the memorial statue.

Then Russia may have tried the same thing with Georgia.

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In 2007, disruptions of Internet service in Estonia--like Georgia, formerly a political division of the Russia-dominated Soviet Union--prompted talk of those events as possibly the first-ever cyberwar. The exact nature of the disruptions, and who might be to blame, proved hard to pin down.

The Russian embassy in London said it had no information regarding cyberattacks against Georgia, but insisted there had been no military attack against Georgia. "I'd like to draw attention to a misunderstanding," said a Russian embassy spokesperson. "There is no Russian (military) attack. There is peace enforcement in South Ossetia."

One of the statements made by the Georgian government on the Polish presidential Web site accused the Russians of bombing the port of Poti on the Black Sea, "far from South Ossetia," and of sending warships into the area.

"(Poti) serves as a vital energy-transit route to Europe," read the statement. "Over the past 48 hours, Russian forces have killed over 100 Georgian civilians and soldiers, after targeting residential complexes in Georgia, as well as airports, bases, and other vital infrastructure."

In July, Shadowserver security volunteer Steven Adair reported that the president of Georgia's Web site had suffered a denial-of-service attack following a buildup of hostilities between Russia and Georgia over South Ossetia.
There is a lot of cyber attacks...co-ordinated with and without government funding. And nearly all of it is undocumented and it's traces all completely erased and untraceble.

A lot of people don't understand how many credit cards and social insurance numbers and banking information there is out there on the internet and how easy it is to get.

T.J. Maxx theft believed largest hack ever - Technology & science - Security - msnbc.com

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Learning From the Heartland Credit Card Breach | PCWorld

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Three suspected hackers are now facing federal charges in connection with the largest identity theft case ever to reach America's courts. The men are accused of breaking into the files of Heartland Payment Systems, the world's ninth largest credit processing company, and stealing more than 130 million credit and debit card numbers.
Companies want to hide anytime they have been hacked. When it comes to hacking it is so much easier to be the hacker than the hacked.

I personally would be deterred from using the UFC website to purchase anything for a while. Or purchase a prepaid credit card if I were to use their site.

I still believe that there are more hacked credit cards in North America, than cards that haven't been. That is to say, there is at least most of your credit card information already out there...maybe not the last 4 digits and security pin....yet....but if they targeted you, they could get that too.

Paranoid..yes....but I went to school for this stuff and have witnessed it in person.
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I personally would be deterred from using the UFC website to purchase anything for a while. Or purchase a prepaid credit card if I were to use their site.


Thnx for the heads up! Made it bigger in case someone on here didn't read this and they went on and bought something later.

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It could easily be defined as terrorism, the hackers are using acts of violence (against UFC property) & threats (by releasing DW's info - yes not a direct threat but we all get the point) to push a political agenda or purpose (Anti - SOPA ideals).

The hackers are attacking the UFC for supporting SOPA and Dana for being a loud mouth who supports SOPA. I would say it fits the definition of terrorism,
Okay, so far I have read about how the UFC is not as big as the NFL and how the Gov is not going to waist their time to protect such a small organization, especially when they are focused on the election coming up...So far so good. And we know that "hackers are attacking the UFC for supporting SOPA".

Now here is my question: Why bother attacking such a relatively small company like the UFC and why not just focus on the more bigger things like the Police and FBI sites?
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Thnx for the heads up! Made it bigger in case someone on here didn't read this and they went on and bought something later.



Okay, so far I have read about how the UFC is not as big as the NFL and how the Gov is not going to waist their time to protect such a small organization, especially when they are focused on the election coming up...So far so good. And we know that "hackers are attacking the UFC for supporting SOPA".

Now here is my question: Why bother attacking such a relatively small company like the UFC and why not just focus on the more bigger things like the Police and FBI sites?
I'm surprised they haven't hit the UFC where it could cause the most collateral damage; FOX and their associated websites. And in doing so connect the blame to their relationship with the UFC and the UFC's support of SOPA and PIPA.

I can't help but think whether or not this whole debacle will greatly increase revenue for ZUFFA. What happens when it doesn't? What and who will Dana and the Fertitta's blame for the supposed lost millions then?


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maybe Dana regrets buying Strikeforce?

sounds like someones a little worried about his monopoly game
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Piracy is not stealing. Jesus, how us stealing a watch from a store equivalent of downloading a PPV that was purchased in the first place?

Copying is not theft, not even close. If you had a machine that you could copy your neighbors Ferrari and have an exact replica while your neighbor maintains his original, how is that theft? And who the hell wouldn't do it? Pay $125,000 or just make a copy?

That's not theft. That's using technology properly.

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^ No I think it is stealing. The reason it is stealing is because it's something we desire and the legal way of getting this desire satisfied is to buy it. If we don't waste our own money, it is stealing. If you watch an online stream, we steal their product. Something they put money into, only for us to watch it for free.
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Copying is not theft, not even close. If you had a machine that you could copy your neighbors Ferrari and have an exact replica while your neighbor maintains his original, how is that theft? And who the hell wouldn't do it? Pay $125,000 or just make a copy?
I'm no authority here, but there could be some patent infringements with xeroxing Ferrari's.

Also, maybe I could start printing some dollar bills, because that would save me time from robbing a bank.

I think if you buy a ppv then you should be able to download said event to save for later. When my dvr gets loaded with purchased ppv's I have no other option than to store them by...some...other means.

With that said, if I was a musician and people were pirating my hard work, I'd probably be a little pissed too. But to come full circle, the other components of SOPA and PIPA are meant for control and censorship. And that is not right.


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