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Old 01-29-2012, 03:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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While I believe Sonnen won that fight and I think Joe Rogan is getting worse on his being biased on who he wishes to win (and I don't mean just on this fight, I mean he picks who he likes better and then just hypes them the entire fight and sorta "forgets" what the other person does in the fight), let's just pretend that Bisping should have won that fight.

Ok, so Bisping should have got the decision. It would seem to me (and I would think many other people), that it would be sweet justice that he got robbed. I would absolutely LOVE for someone to come in here and tell me how they feel Michael Bisping DESERVED his win over Matt Hamill. So if Bisping got robbed tonight, then that just makes things even. He got an undeserved lose for an undeserved win.

Now I will freely admit that I thought Chael was going to do WAY better than he did tonight, so I am looking at Bisping in a different manner now. But I still think he is the Diaz of his division......he peppers guys, but couldn't knock out a tadpole.

If Chael puts on the performance he did tonight against Anderson Silva, Chael is going to get fucked up.

If Bisping fought Anderson Silva the way he fought tonight, it would be a Dan Henderson rerun.

Those of you that are Bisping fans.....and I mean true fans and not just fans because you hate Bisping haters (like people hate Fedor only because they hate Fedor nut huggers), that think he won tonight, do you think the show he put on tonight would be good enough to take the belt from Anderson Silva?

I think Anderson will destroy Chael if Chael put on the performance he did tonight. I also feel that Bisping would last even a less of a time than Chael if Bisping came out in the same way.


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Old 01-29-2012, 07:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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i agree rogans really getting annoying with only going for one person and not to mention when the guy is losing hell either shut up or try and shadow it by talking about something theyve done he thinks is great.
i know off subject you want but just saying
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Yeah it was weird, it almost looked like Sonnen had a hard weight cut or something else was going on. He looked slow and weak compared to other fights. Making him no where near as explosive. Maybe I'm not giving Bisping credit that he deserves, but as you said neither looked good. Makes me wonder if nerves or illness played a part in Sonnen's performance. On another note, I don't mind and actually enjoy shit Sonnen says most times, but after a performance like he had last night. He should of just kept his mouth shut instead of boasting like he did during the Rogan interview.

And yeah Rogan is biased as hell. I do like him but man, I've been noticing more and more lately how he will call punches from one guy and not mention a nice shot by the other. Frustrating at times, listening to that mess.
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rogan said that chael had a real tough weight cut. i still think chael clearly took the fight. he was way more dominant. bisping spent most of the fight scrambling back up the cage or pinning chael against it. mike got the best of him on the feet but not by some overwhelming margin. and chael lit up bisping a few times on the ground. now i am a little biased because this was one of my favorite fighters (sonnen) taking on one of my least favorites (bisping). i have to give bisping credit though he will no longer be underrated in my book he is one of the top MW in the world. i would like to see him fight munoz next. i gained ALOT of respect for bispings talent last night and i really hope chael looks much better against silva than he did last night or he wont get past the third rd.
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rogan said that chael had a real tough weight cut. i still think chael clearly took the fight. he was way more dominant. bisping spent most of the fight scrambling back up the cage or pinning chael against it. mike got the best of him on the feet but not by some overwhelming margin. and chael lit up bisping a few times on the ground. now i am a little biased because this was one of my favorite fighters (sonnen) taking on one of my least favorites (bisping). i have to give bisping credit though he will no longer be underrated in my book he is one of the top MW in the world. i would like to see him fight munoz next. i gained ALOT of respect for bispings talent last night and i really hope chael looks much better against silva than he did last night or he wont get past the third rd.
I agree with what you say here, I pretty much had and have the same outlook.
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Im gonna say right now last night I was HAMMERED, but I had Bisping winning the first two rounds based on the lack of attack from Sonnen when he finnialy did get the TDs. If I remember correctly Sonnen's TD in Rds 1 and 2 were met with zero offense and Bisping standing back up withing 10secs every time. I dont see how that wins a fight myself, but Im just goin off my drunken memory 14 hours ago lol.

I actually had it a draw mid way through the 3rd. 1st and 2nd 10-9 for Bisping, and the last was looking like a 10-8 for Chael(imo), untill Bisping got back to his feet with like a minute left and finished the round in dominant posisiton. Me and my buddy(both drinking lol) looked at eachother and said "Bisping 29-28??"

Wasnt the worst "robbery" we've ever seen because it was a pretty close fight, and I somewhat agree about the sweet justice of Bisping losing, when he clearly lost the Hammil fight but got the W. But yeah I had Bisping winning slightly, No biggie imo because either get demolished by Silva.

But anyways like I said I was uber drunk. DL'in the fights as we speak and will rewatch them tonight probably.
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Bisping didn't get robbed last night; he lost 30 - 29.
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The first time I watched the fight with the sound when it was live I had Sonnen winning 29-28 with Bisping taking the first round.

But, after rewatching the fight without Joe Rogan flipping out I scored it 30-27 Sonnen. Bear hugging someone against a cage is not scoring points. Thats all Bisping really did was stall Sonnen against the cage. When they where actually standing and trading it was a lot closer then people have said. Bisping throws straight punches and good combos and Sonnen throws kind of wild but Sonnen landed more punches when they were standing. Do not believe me, fightmetric has Sonnen out-landing Bisping 135-102. Since the stand-up was close with neither guy really out doing the other one it goes to grappling and Sonnen clearly out grappled Bisping in ever single round. Therefore, Sonnen wins 30-27. If Bisping had dropped down for a few takedowns instead of bear hugging, he probably would have won the fight.

Also, why didn't they get broken up more when Bisping was bear hugging Sonnen? He was doing nothing but pushing him against the cage. They should have been broken up at least 2 or 3 times instead of just once.
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To darkmage. Bisping beat Hamill. It was close but bisping beat Hamill. Just watch the fight. Rounds 2 & 3 were bispings. Hate all you want
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I dont think enough people are giving the two of them credit for massive opponent changes like 2 weeks before the fight. of course they looked lackluster, they both were training to fight two very different fighters. When your training to fight a jitz ace like maia, and all of a sudden its a bulldog wrestler, thats gonna affect everything youve been drilling.. same goes the other way too.

ah well. chael def. anderson by arm triangle. yep, I said it.
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