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02-02-2012, 06:53 PM
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#21 (permalink)
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Status: I am Sofa King Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 4,586
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Originally Posted by TBEAR How?
Lets look and see then
Here is our forums rankings
Heavyweight
1 Junior Dos Santos--Beats Jones
2 Cain Valasquez---beats Jones
3 Alistair Overeem---Beats Jones
4 Fabricio Werdum---Jones can win if it stays on the feet
5 Frank Mir---beats Jones
6 Josh Barnett---Beats Jones
7 Daniel Cormier---beats jones
8 Antonio Silva----beats Jones
9 Shane Carwin---Beats Jones
10 Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira---Jones has a chance, just because Nog is not in his prime anymore
The fact is Jones is not big enought to deal with these HUGE HW as of now. In a few Years and packing on several pounds of real bulk he can, but not now.
Jones may still have a reach advantage on everyone, but the power difference is HUGE. If Cain, Carwin, Comier or Josh wanted it on the ground they can get it there. JDS, AO and Bigfoot are monsters and beat Jones standing. IMO, Mir can take him aswell.
So I guess I don't see how that is a bold statment. I think you are confused on the difference between a guy that walks around at 220 and a guy that fights at 250+. Big ass difference | I actually think Jones could beat Shane Carwin if he was to move up right now. He would pick Carwin appart for days on end and dump him on his ass if he was to get in close.
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Favorite Fighters: Anderson Silva, Jon Jones, Rampage Jackson, Melvin Guillard, Rashad Evans, JDS, Rich Franklin, Jose Aldo, BJ Penn, GSP.
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There needs to be an amber alert out for Trodden.
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02-02-2012, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by roaddawg I would love to revisit this discussion again with you and perhaps make a few sig bets. I think the error you are making is that you are placing too much on size alone and not skill.
I think Jones can beat most of the hws actually with the exception of maybe JDS and Overeem. | No matter what your girlfriend says....size does matter
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Originally Posted by rivethead I just see Sonnen as someone with zero integrity: a corrupt businessman, a known juicer, a known liar, a significantly-less-than-funny-plagiarist; and as an individual who embodies the worst possible stereotypes of what it is to be American. I do not want him as an ambassador for the U.S. or for MMA in general.
rh | 100% AGREED
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02-02-2012, 07:02 PM
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Status: Formerly the Frye Guy Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 5,903
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Jones/Kongo or Jones/Mir could be very interesting IMO.
If they wanted to highlight his abilities at HW and give him a chance to sink or swim, Big Roy would be a good fight.
For now, though, he's sitting at LHW and that's where he belongs.
Although he's been incredibly dominant, it's kind of silly to call for him to move up after just 2 title defenses at this point. Moreover, it's INCREDIBLY stupid to overlook Henderson or Evans in any fight.
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02-02-2012, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TBEAR No matter what your girlfriend says....size does matter | OOOOOOO SHIT!
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Favorite Fighters: Anderson Silva, Jon Jones, Rampage Jackson, Melvin Guillard, Rashad Evans, JDS, Rich Franklin, Jose Aldo, BJ Penn, GSP.
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There needs to be an amber alert out for Trodden.
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