Originally Posted by SWIFTboy
I voted no rematch and move the FW.
Sure, he had to give rematches, but those situations were different.
I think the first BJ decision was massively controvertial. More importantly though, BJ had dismantled that division up until that point.
Let me start by saying I thought it was outrageous that BJ got that rematch, I thought it was completley useless, and Edgar beat him fair and square. Now thats done..I love the train of thought that "Bj was the king at LW, so a rematch made sense!". Fact
-BJ beat 4 top ten fighters at LW and went 5-2. Edgar has beaten 4 top ten guys and was went 5-1-1 in that time frame.
If BJ "dismantled" the division by beating guys like Joe Daddy,Kenny florian and Diego, then Edgar should be blowing the division apart with back-to-back wins over BJ(more impressive then beating Joe Daddy and Kenflo), and KTFO of Maynard(mopre impressive then TKO'ing any of the guys BJ beat)
Edgar's wins at LW>>>Bj Penns wins at LW and I dont think anyone can deny that.
So your whole logic of "Bj was running the division so it made sense" Should most certainly apply here with Frankie.
In this case, I don't think the decision was controvertial. I think it was a close fight, but in my opinion Benson Henderson was the clear cut winner.
Much like Edgar/Penn 1, I didnt feel like there was a need for a rematch because(as you just said) Frankie clearly won the fight.
BUT BJ got a rematch, just for being fucking "BJ Penn", and Frankies has accomplished more at LW then Penn has. To say he doesnt deserve a rematch is just hilarious imo.
Originally Posted by W.Silva>C.Norris
Does he deserve a rematch? yeah probably. Will he get it? probably not.
Do I feel there needs to be an immediate rematch? no. Its time to start cycling fights in the UFC again. If it was such a good fight (which this was), it'll be even better when they meet again.
I love it how(not just you) but alot of people are saying "NOW
its time to start getting new matchups!...not last year..when Frankie had to give all the rematches..I agreed with those
...BUT NOW is the time to start with new matches!!"
Oh, and Id say a ko win over joe lauzon to a title fight is every bit as legit as rampage fighting chuck after a win over eastman),
*shakes head* Dude Chuck was the most dominat UFC LHW champion ever, And Rampage was the ONLY lost Chuck hadnt avenged up untill that point.
I see where you were going, but theres some major details missing that made Chuck/Rampage 2 one of the most anticipated rematches EVER.
I really dont think Pettis/Bendo is on that level
Originally Posted by lwbrewer
No was my vote. Maynard was a draw, but technically thats a loss for Maynard since the champ wins all draws. BJ is the gifted boy in more ways than one if you get what I mean.
Again with the logic of "Bj deserved it, but Frankie doesnt" Read the above paragraph to find out that Frankie>>BJ Penn at LW.
Whats good for the goose should be good for the gander.
Originally Posted by Fear My Hammer Fist
I don't necessarily believe that immediate rematches should ever be made in decision wins/losses, but unfortunately a precedent has been set. Frankie's had to endure it himself multiple times, it's only right that he gets a shot at it himself.
I DO AGREE that it has gotten a bit out of hand. BUT to force Frankie to give multiple rematches, and not give him one when he lost a close fight if absolute BS.
BJ got a rematch by winning a round or two, WHY CANY FRANKIE?
"Because BJ ran through the division!.."....and Frankie didnt? Id really like to hear a good argument as to why Bj gets a immediate rematch for winning a round or two, but Frankie doesnt deserve the same treament
....I have a feeling I'll be waiting for a while.