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Originally Posted by SWIFTboy I voted no rematch and move the FW.
Sure, he had to give rematches, but those situations were different.
I think the first BJ decision was massively controvertial. More importantly though, BJ had dismantled that division up until that point. |
Let me start by saying I thought it was outrageous that BJ got that rematch, I thought it was completley useless, and Edgar beat him fair and square. Now thats done..I love the train of thought that "Bj was the king at LW, so a rematch made sense!".
Fact-BJ beat 4 top ten fighters at LW and went 5-2. Edgar has beaten 4 top ten guys and was went 5-1-1 in that time frame.
If BJ "dismantled" the division by beating guys like Joe Daddy,Kenny florian and Diego, then Edgar should be blowing the division apart with back-to-back wins over BJ(more impressive then beating Joe Daddy and Kenflo), and KTFO of Maynard(mopre impressive then TKO'ing any of the guys BJ beat)
Edgar's wins at LW>>>Bj Penns wins at LW and I dont think anyone can deny that.
So your whole logic of "Bj was running the division so it made sense" Should most certainly apply here with Frankie.
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In this case, I don't think the decision was controvertial. I think it was a close fight, but in my opinion Benson Henderson was the clear cut winner.
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Much like Edgar/Penn 1, I didnt feel like there was a need for a rematch because(as you just said) Frankie clearly won the fight.
BUT BJ got a rematch, just for being fucking "BJ Penn", and Frankies has accomplished more at LW then Penn has. To say he doesnt deserve a rematch is just hilarious imo.
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Originally Posted by W.Silva>C.Norris Does he deserve a rematch? yeah probably. Will he get it? probably not.
Do I feel there needs to be an immediate rematch? no. Its time to start cycling fights in the UFC again. If it was such a good fight (which this was), it'll be even better when they meet again. |
I love it how(not just you) but alot of people are saying "
NOW its time to start getting new matchups!...not last year..when Frankie had to give all the rematches..
I agreed with those...BUT NOW is the time to start with new matches!!"
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Oh, and Id say a ko win over joe lauzon to a title fight is every bit as legit as rampage fighting chuck after a win over eastman),
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*shakes head* Dude Chuck was the most dominat UFC LHW champion ever, And Rampage was the ONLY lost Chuck hadnt avenged up untill that point.
I see where you were going, but theres some major details missing that made Chuck/Rampage 2 one of the most anticipated rematches EVER.
I really dont think Pettis/Bendo is on
that level dude.
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Originally Posted by lwbrewer No was my vote. Maynard was a draw, but technically thats a loss for Maynard since the champ wins all draws. BJ is the gifted boy in more ways than one if you get what I mean. |
Again with the logic of "Bj deserved it, but Frankie doesnt" Read the above paragraph to find out that Frankie>>BJ Penn at LW.
Whats good for the goose should be good for the gander.
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Originally Posted by Fear My Hammer Fist Agree.
I don't necessarily believe that immediate rematches should ever be made in decision wins/losses, but unfortunately a precedent has been set. Frankie's had to endure it himself multiple times, it's only right that he gets a shot at it himself. |
I DO AGREE that it has gotten a bit out of hand. BUT to force Frankie to give multiple rematches, and not give him one when he lost a close fight if absolute BS.
BJ got a rematch by winning a round or two, WHY CANY FRANKIE?
"Because BJ ran through the division!.."....and Frankie didnt?
Id really like to hear a good argument as to why Bj gets a immediate rematch for winning a round or two, but Frankie doesnt deserve the same treament....I have a feeling I'll be waiting for a while.