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Old 04-25-2012, 05:49 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Hmm, 2 dozen people in the Bar watching fights and he was suppose to benefit financially from this? Lets take into account all of the time that has been tied up in the courts, Judges wages, lawyers wages, administrative wages. What a waste of time. Fear tactics by the UFC.

I'm not sure what the commercial package for the UFC would cost but if it's anything more than an a couple extra dollars a person that it is not really financially beneficial unless they are charging people to get in. Then if they are charging people to get in they may be turning away people who were not there to watch the UFC.

Does the UFC want bars to stop showing it? I see it as free advertising when all the bars have signs up saying come watch UFC 1XX this weekend. You can only be interested in something you know about. Most people that are watching/ordering these events probably don't go read MMA news sites everyday. I very rarely see any type of UFC advertising on TV. If I didn't read MMA sites I would most likely learn about these events for bar advertising.
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Anybody against this = broke kids and/or adults.

Get a job fellas
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Not particularly. I have plenty of money yet am against Zuffa spending its energy towards prosecuting fans and passing SOPA, CISPA, PIPA and ACTA.

Instead of improving the sport, they are wasting energy on this bullshit. While they could be lobbying or researching ways to fix the condition of the judging and scoring which frustrates both long-time fans and those new to the sport.

Your logic fails.

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Not particularly. I have plenty of money yet am against Zuffa spending its energy towards prosecuting fans and passing SOPA, CISPA, PIPA and ACTA.

Instead of improving the sport, they are wasting energy on this bullshit. While they could be lobbying or researching ways to fix the condition of the judging and scoring which frustrates both long-time fans and those new to the sport.

Your logic fails.
Fans?

No this was a business owner profiting from stealing from another business.

A business protects it's assets. But then again, when you don't own a business yourself or have anything to fight for, it's a lot easier to say those things.
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No this was a business owner profiting from stealing from another business.

A business protects it's assets. But then again, when you don't own a business yourself or have anything to fight for, it's a lot easier to say those things.
The government can do that and does. Creating prolonged civil legal battles on top of criminal charges is a waste of time and money. Zuffa will spend more on lawyers than they will ever receive. All they are doing is using scare tactics, much like the entertainment industry has done throughout history.

Gotta keep those lawyers on retainer busy though, right?

Instead, pissing away this money on something negative, they could do something positive with it. Is that difficult to comprehend?
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Fans?

No this was a business owner profiting from stealing from another business.

A business protects it's assets. But then again, when you don't own a business yourself or have anything to fight for, it's a lot easier to say those things.
I get your point but....

What is the unemployment rate in America? Over 8 % which is down from 10% over the last couple years... One in ten people who want to work are unable to find employment. Your and ours (American and Canadain) economies are in the toilet.. Not to mention, those who are employed are struggling to find "living" wages.

No this is not Zuffa's fault and if anything they stimulate local economies. No this is not your fault but have some compassion as I am sure some of your fellow forum members, neighbors or friends struggle to find quality employment in these tough times.

With that said, yes the bar owner is very in the wrong and should be charged.. What he did was much further down the line than watching a pirated stream in your own home.
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Yes the owner is wrong and it probably wasn't his first time doing this. Hopefully he made enough from the times before, because he is going to pay that all back and then some. Zuffa is definately trying to set an example with this and if you feel sorry for him that is fine, but he broke the rules and will pay the price.
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No this was a business owner profiting from stealing from another business.

A business protects it's assets. But then again, when you don't own a business yourself or have anything to fight for, it's a lot easier to say those things.
Actually it's more of a symbiotic relationship. Zuffa is crying about the few extra hundred dollars they missed out on by this guy when in fact what he's doing is growing them a fan base. Just around Calgary I've noticed that far fewer bars are advertising UFC's than they have in the past few years.
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The price of the PPVs is pretty expensive for pubs that are just barely getting by during a recession - when many people are unable to go out all the time.

That is not the situation for pubs that host the UFC around here. Every large event, like the Jones/Rashad, has a venue that is filled to the brim with people standing.
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Well this is simple, there is a business owner making a profit off the UFC without giving the UFC, as well as his Cable Provider, a fair shake..
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