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| | Dana White: Tito Ortiz, BJ Penn Deserve to Be in UFC Hall of Fame
Dana White: Tito Ortiz, BJ Penn Deserve to Be in UFC Hall of Fame
Dana White: Tito Ortiz, BJ Penn Deserve to Be in UFC Hall of Fame - MMA Fighting
The UFC hasnít set a time or date for its next set of inductions into the companyís Hall of Fame. But when they get around to it, said company president Dana White, two former champions will likely get a call. |
During a lunch gathering at The Palm restaurant, White said two fighters coming close to the end of the line, former UFC light heavyweight champion Tito Ortiz and multi-weight class champ B.J. Penn, belong in the Hall of Fame.
"Despite my personal problems with Tito, he belongs in," said White. "He was the champion when we first bought this thing. The fact that Tito is still here, Tito and I have had our moments, but it doesnít change what he did for the company."
Ortiz was the first major drawing card of the Zuffa era. "The Huntington Beach Bad Boy" held the light heavyweight title from 2000-03, still the third-longest reign in company history, and his rivalries with Ken Shamrock and Chuck Liddell helped etch the new-era UFC into mainstream consciousness.
Ortiz and White have famously clashed over the years. But White says he canít deny the former champion his place in history.
"The beef between me and Tito, Chuck and Tito, the fact is, that played a huge role in helping making this thing as big as it is."
Penn, a Hilo, Hawaii native billed as "The Prodigy," is one of the most naturally gifted fighters ever to set foot in the Octagon. His willingness to fight anyone -- he once gave up 50 pounds in a fight against future UFC light heavyweight champion Lyoto Machida and took him to a decision -- made him one of the companyís most popular fighters.
Penn is one of just two fighters to win titles in multiple weight classes. In 2004, the natural lightweight went up to welterweight and submitted Matt Hughes to claim the crown, ending Hughesí 13-fight win streak. In 2008, he defeated Joe Stevenson for the vacant UFC lightweight title and held the belt for two years.
"Definitely," White said when asked if Penn belongs in the Hall. "The thing about B.J. Penn is that what he brought to the lightweight division, there was a point in time when we first bought this company when people thought guys in the lighter weight divisions couldnít be stars and couldnít see pay-per-views and couldnít cross over. B.J. Penn was definitely that first crossover guy for us."
Ortiz will fight Forrest Griffin in their trilogy fight on July 7 in what is expected to be Ortizís last fight. Penn is hinting at retirement, but White thinks heís not done yet.
"Heíll be back. Itís tough, when there are 16,000 people in the arena chanting your name, itís tough to walk away from that. B.J. Penn is a fighter. You hear some of these guys, and Tito was one of these guys, he said he wanted to be famous. B.J. Penn is a fighter."
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04-26-2012, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LefthookStcrook
I get that Frank Shamrock is a MMA vet, I really do. But having someone who has like what 5(?) fights in the UFC into the HOF seems a bit of a stetch. TBH the only UFC Frank Shamrock fights I personally remember are Jeremy Horn and Ortiz. 2 big names and like what 5-6 fights if that, doesnt really seem HOF worthy to me...just being honest.
True, Frank only fought 5 fights in the UFC....however those were all 5 MW title fights, all of which he won. I highly recommend going back to watch Frank's UFC fights, much of his history has been whitewashed, but what needs to be recognized is just how frigging dominant he was during his UFC run and when he hit is prime, he was unparalleled and just technically untouchable. He had one of the greatest PRE-ZUFFA fights in UFC history against Tito, beat an Olympic Gold Medalist wrestler & UFC 14 Champion, Kevin Jackson in under a 30 seconds, beat a primed Jeremy Horn in a war and retired undefeated with no legitmate competators in sight.
While I love Don Frye, advocating for him with his best UFC victories coming off of Johnston, Abbott & Goodridge, isn't too impressive in comparison, given that he crushed a few cans in his UFC tourney runs.
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