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04-30-2012, 09:53 PM
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Machida by ," fingers crossed" an impressive stoppage to set up a third match with shogun, gustaffson could be resting until after the lhw division is a little more clear, I would think he's one big win away from a title shot so if theyre waiting to see what happens with hendo and jones to decide and he was gonna fight i'd say he's fighting little nog like he was supposed to.
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05-01-2012, 06:04 AM
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Ehh. Not interesting.
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05-01-2012, 06:21 AM
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Wonder what kind of strategy Bader will use. If he stays on the outside and tries to strike with Machida, I think he gets worked. Most likely I think he tries to chase Machida down and clinch him like Rampage did. He's going to have a very hard time taking him down though. I'm thinking either Machida clowns Bader on the feet or its a close fight where Machida can't find the wholes he's looking for or Bader turns it into a grind against the cage.
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05-01-2012, 11:19 AM
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Way I see it, if Tito Ortiz can clip Bader's chin, Machida can knock it clean off.
I like Bader alot and his style should give Machida some troubles, but I think Machida sits in the pocket and lands his shot that shuts Bader's eyes for the night.
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05-01-2012, 11:33 AM
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Mma math!!!!!!
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05-01-2012, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement Mma math!!!!!! | What part of potentially having a suspect chin is MMA Math? Tito clipped Bader when he came in sloppily and fact is, with Machida's style he's going to test Bader's standup throughout the fight from the perimeter and throw some really weird stuff at Bader, that he hasn't encountered yet and I don't think his standup is sufficient enough to circumvent it.
If Machida can exploit something that Bader has had a failing with in the past, I think that's something of relevance beyond MMA Math.
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05-01-2012, 02:50 PM
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Bader gets lit up here pretty badly IMO
As good as Bader's wrestling is, Machida can grapple with the best of them. If Bader can't smother Machida (which I don't think he stands a chance at doing) this is either going to be a one sided UD Machida, or a spectacular KO for Machida
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05-01-2012, 04:13 PM
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I'm not sure this fight will play out to be a barn-burner. Machida showed improved boxing but considering that Bader doesn't have the reach of Jon Jones, Dragon will probably revert back to his elusive counter-striking style.
I think the 'new' Bader (post-Tito KO) fights similar to GSP--he does enough on the feet to get you comfortable and gets his opponents to plant their heels, then uses well-timed takedowns to keep strikers off-balance.
Machida has the best chance to score a TKO/KO if Bader decides to press forward and engage. But if Bader can implement the game-plan he used against Rampage (similar to the game-plan Rampage used against Machida) he can win out a decision. I wonder if Machida's wrestling collaboration with King Mo will manifest in the form of solid TDD.
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05-01-2012, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Fedorlei Gomipierre What part of potentially having a suspect chin is MMA Math? Tito clipped Bader when he came in sloppily and fact is, with Machida's style he's going to test Bader's standup throughout the fight from the perimeter and throw some really weird stuff at Bader, that he hasn't encountered yet and I don't think his standup is sufficient enough to circumvent it.
If Machida can exploit something that Bader has had a failing with in the past, I think that's something of relevance beyond MMA Math. | MMA math is saying since fighter A accomplished something against fighter B, then fighter C should have no problem doing that. That's MMA math. It's okay though, I mean if Tito could do it, Rampage could right?
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05-01-2012, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement MMA math is saying since fighter A accomplished something against fighter B, then fighter C should have no problem doing that. That's MMA math. It's okay though, I mean if Tito could do it, Rampage could right? | LOL, I understand what you're saying but what I was angling for was more to do with Bader ability to take a punch from anyone, with Tito being the lowest on that totempole.
IMO an emotionally engaged, focused, committed and on-weight Rampage Jackson DEFINATELY could've done it to Bader, whose striking is wild and spotty at best. I don't want to take too much away from Bader in that fight because the gameplan he employed looked VERY good, however I also believe Rampage faciliated the fight being so onesided and Bader's gameplan succeeding so much, by coming in looking like utter garbage.
I think Bader's striking while powerful, has some of the biggest holes among top LHWs and should be exploited by most of the top tier, of whom are all superior strikers(sans Davis)
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