Alistair Overeem should pick up a one year punishment for failing a drug test, according to fellow fighter Mark Bocek.
Dutch kickboxer Overeem, who made his UFC debut in a victory over Brock Lesnar in December, was tested positive for elevated levels of testosterone by the Nevada State Athletic Commission in April. He has since claimed the result was skewed by an anti-inflammatory medication prescribed by his doctor.
Overeem should be made an example of by UFC officials, Bocek told MMASucka, adding that officials should use the case to make a strong stand against the use of performance enhancing drugs by fighters.
“There’s definitely got to be some type of punishment. You can put any twist on it want. I’m no doctor I just think if your doctor’s telling you you need to be on TRT and you need to be on medical marijuana, you shouldn’t be fighting. He wasn’t under license at the time, he’s trying to flee the building over another series of testing, it makes you wonder about everyone else. I would think one year punishment for a guy like Overeem,” he said.
“I think it’s a problem in every division. I think it’s just kind of become part of the sport. Definitely random testing could change or fix that. As you see with Overeem, he really wasn’t expecting that but it’s a part of any sport really. Any Olympic sport as well.”
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Bocek is right. I'd be pleased if the NSAC randomly tested him throughout the next 9 months, and declined his license in December.
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Like may fighters and fans with opinions, bocek had not paid attention to the details of the overreem case. Now granted Overreem did try to leave in a hurry during the random drug testing, maybe it was because of the medication he had in his system or mabye it really was because he was being served papers for a lawsuit (actually turns out to be true..). Who knows. Overreem did provide evidence that he was taking medication for an injury, and did provide the documentation and doctor as proof. whether you believe he paid the doctor off or used the "medication" to cheat is up to you. I'd like to know more about the medicine he took and if it would really be an effective steroid for training. There are lots of question marks if you look deeper into the overreem case, but for the most part Overreem will be out for a year anyway. He can not apply for a license until next year I believe. So there ya go. Hopefully this will be a message for most fighters to get a clear understanding with their doctors about what's going into their bodies. Maybe even draft a document listing banned substances to hand to their doctor, I think doctors shouldn't mind checking into medications to ensure that they don't contain anything the fighter can not take. They have to do that for allergic reactions, so why not PED's as well?
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Like may fighters and fans with opinions, bocek had not paid attention to the details of the overreem case. Now granted Overreem did try to leave in a hurry during the random drug testing, maybe it was because of the medication he had in his system or mabye it really was because he was being served papers for a lawsuit (actually turns out to be true..). Who knows. Overreem did provide evidence that he was taking medication for an injury, and did provide the documentation and doctor as proof. whether you believe he paid the doctor off or used the "medication" to cheat is up to you. I'd like to know more about the medicine he took and if it would really be an effective steroid for training. There are lots of question marks if you look deeper into the overreem case, but for the most part Overreem will be out for a year anyway. He can not apply for a license until next year I believe. So there ya go. Hopefully this will be a message for most fighters to get a clear understanding with their doctors about what's going into their bodies. Maybe even draft a document listing banned substances to hand to their doctor, I think doctors shouldn't mind checking into medications to ensure that they don't contain anything the fighter can not take. They have to do that for allergic reactions, so why not PED's as well?
You really give people the benefit of the doubt. Like when Dave Chappelle said about whther R Kelly really peed on that little girl.
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Like may fighters and fans with opinions, bocek had not paid attention to the details of the overreem case. Now granted Overreem did try to leave in a hurry during the random drug testing, maybe it was because of the medication he had in his system or mabye it really was because he was being served papers for a lawsuit (actually turns out to be true..). Who knows. Overreem did provide evidence that he was taking medication for an injury, and did provide the documentation and doctor as proof. whether you believe he paid the doctor off or used the "medication" to cheat is up to you. I'd like to know more about the medicine he took and if it would really be an effective steroid for training. There are lots of question marks if you look deeper into the overreem case, but for the most part Overreem will be out for a year anyway. He can not apply for a license until next year I believe. So there ya go. Hopefully this will be a message for most fighters to get a clear understanding with their doctors about what's going into their bodies. Maybe even draft a document listing banned substances to hand to their doctor, I think doctors shouldn't mind checking into medications to ensure that they don't contain anything the fighter can not take. They have to do that for allergic reactions, so why not PED's as well?
Give a doctor of a world class athlete a list of what drugs are banned? This would be a good measure, if it was 1999 maybe. There's no reason anymore why any of shit should take a fighter by surprise anymore... to me it's like saying " What? I didn't know smoking causes lung cancer ", it should be that obvious to these guys.
Also, just to keep in mind, even if Alistair was taking a medication for an injury does not mean he wasn't taking something else at the same time.
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Like may fighters and fans with opinions, bocek had not paid attention to the details of the overreem case. Now granted Overreem did try to leave in a hurry during the random drug testing, maybe it was because of the medication he had in his system or mabye it really was because he was being served papers for a lawsuit (actually turns out to be true..). Who knows. Overreem did provide evidence that he was taking medication for an injury, and did provide the documentation and doctor as proof. whether you believe he paid the doctor off or used the "medication" to cheat is up to you. I'd like to know more about the medicine he took and if it would really be an effective steroid for training. There are lots of question marks if you look deeper into the overreem case, but for the most part Overreem will be out for a year anyway. He can not apply for a license until next year I believe. So there ya go. Hopefully this will be a message for most fighters to get a clear understanding with their doctors about what's going into their bodies. Maybe even draft a document listing banned substances to hand to their doctor, I think doctors shouldn't mind checking into medications to ensure that they don't contain anything the fighter can not take. They have to do that for allergic reactions, so why not PED's as well?
Joe, I know you like him, but you need to change the prescription on your rose colored goggles. Judging from your post, I think you are the one who hasn't paid close enough attention...
He wasn't being served papers at the time of the test, he got them later.
But that brings up yet another integrity issue: When you're in the right, what is the big deal with being issued a subpeona in the first place? AO has maintained that Golden Glory were completely wrong in this case from the beginning, and that he was right.
If I was 100% right in terms of a lawsuit, I'd want to get it over with as soon as possible. I'd drive to the lawyers office and sign for the papers myself if it could end the case early and not have me paying my own lawyers extra billable hours as the case drags out.
Ducking a process server is a graphic illustration of a lack of integrity. It's the grown-up version of hiding a bad report card under your bed. Resolution is going to happen whether you want it to or not, trying to delay it just makes you look like a punkass.
Not to mention his "evidence" is from quite possibly one of the shadiest doctors on the planet. Seriously...if I had a serious injury and I had to choose between this guy and the guy who killed Michael Jackson, I'd probably chose the injury.
The "evidence" he presented is suspect.
T-levels of 14 to 1 are going to have an impact on training. Even if it's just for a couple days, it's going to have an impact on training. In those couple days he may have the extra energy to work out one specific aspect of training that he would otherwise not have been able to apply himself to...and thus, he's given an unfair advantage by the juice.
And finally, there is already a list of prohibited substances available. He has access to it, his trainers have access to it, the doctor has access to it, anyone who contacts an athletic commission and asks for an updated list has access to it, but this is what's on line:
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PROHIBITED ACTS; DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS
NAC 467.850 Administration or use of alcohol, stimulants, drugs or injections; urinalysis or chemical tests; disciplinary action. (NRS 467.030)
1. The administration of or use of any:
(a) Alcohol;
(b) Stimulant; or
(c) Drug or injection that has not been approved by the Commission, including, but not limited to, the drugs or injections listed in subsection 2,
Ę in any part of the body, either before or during a contest or exhibition, to or by any unarmed combatant, is prohibited.
2. The following types of drugs, injections or stimulants are prohibited pursuant to subsection 1:
(a) Afrinol or any other product that is pharmaceutically similar to Afrinol.
(b) Co-Tylenol or any other product that is pharmaceutically similar to Co-Tylenol.
(c) A product containing an antihistamine and a decongestant.
(d) A decongestant other than a decongestant listed in subsection 4.
(e) Any over-the-counter drug for colds, coughs or sinuses other than those drugs listed in subsection 4. This paragraph includes, but is not limited to, Ephedrine, Phenylpropanolamine, and Mahuang and derivatives of Mahuang.
(f) Any drug identified on the most current edition of the Prohibited List published by the World Anti-Doping Agency, which is hereby adopted by reference. The most current edition of the Prohibited List may be obtained, free of charge, at the Internet address www.wada-ama.org.
3. The following types of drugs or injections are not prohibited pursuant to subsection 1, but their use is discouraged by the Commission:
(a) Aspirin and products containing aspirin.
(b) Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatories.
4. The following types of drugs or injections are approved by the Commission:
(a) Antacids, such as Maalox.
(b) Antibiotics, antifungals or antivirals that have been prescribed by a physician.
(c) Antidiarrheals, such as Imodium, Kaopectate or Pepto-Bismol.
(d) Antihistamines for colds or allergies, such as Bromphen, Brompheniramine, Chlorpheniramine Maleate, Chlor-Trimeton, Dimetane, Hismal, PBZ, Seldane, Tavist-1 or Teldrin.
(e) Antinauseants, such as Dramamine or Tigan.
(f) Antipyretics, such as Tylenol.
(g) Antitussives, such as Robitussin, if the antitussive does not contain codeine.
(h) Antiulcer products, such as Carafate, Pepcid, Reglan, Tagamet or Zantac.
(i) Asthma products in aerosol form, such as Brethine, Metaproterenol (Alupent) or Salbutamol (Albuterol, Proventil or Ventolin).
(j) Asthma products in oral form, such as Aminophylline, Cromolyn, Nasalide or Vanceril.
(k) Ear products, such as Auralgan, Cerumenex, Cortisporin, Debrox or Vosol.
(l) Hemorrhoid products, such as Anusol-HC, Preparation H or Nupercainal.
(m) Laxatives, such as Correctol, Doxidan, Dulcolax, Efferyllium, Ex-Lax, Metamucil, Modane or Milk of Magnesia.
(n) Nasal products, such as AYR Saline, HuMist Saline, Ocean or Salinex.
(o) The following decongestants:
(1) Afrin;
(2) Oxymetazoline HCL Nasal Spray; or
(3) Any other decongestant that is pharmaceutically similar to a decongestant listed in subparagraph (1) or (2).
5. An unarmed combatant shall submit to a urinalysis or chemical test if the Commission or a representative of the Commission directs him or her to do so.
6. A licensee who violates any provision of this section is subject to disciplinary action by the Commission. In addition to any other disciplinary action by the Commission, if an unarmed combatant who won or drew a contest or exhibition is found to have violated the provisions of this section, the Commission may, in its sole discretion, change the result of that contest or exhibition to a no decision.
All manner of men came to work for the News: everything from wild young Turks who wanted to rip the world in half and start all over again -- to tired, beer-bellied old hacks who wanted nothing more than to live out their days in peace before a bunch of lunatics ripped the world in half.
Bocek is right. I'd be pleased if the NSAC randomly tested him throughout the next 9 months, and declined his license in December.
rh
The man's muscles will shrivel and he would most likely look worse than Brock's current physique. With that said, someone needs to take Overeem's body timeline and add another box with a photoshopped Emmanuel Yarborough complete with Reem's head on it.
Bocek calls for “one year punishment” for Overeem 
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