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05-02-2012, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by roaddawg If I was Dana I would set up King Mo vs Rampage since they have beef between eachother. | I agree with you, the only problem is he had a beef with Evans too and that wasn't a great fight. If he couldn't get up for that one... After all the smack talk those 2 had it was really a let down.
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05-02-2012, 07:03 AM
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Rampage wants to leave, let him.
I don't care if he ever fights again.
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05-02-2012, 07:39 AM
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I’m the type of fighter who you should match up with people who want to fight excitingly. You know what I’m saying? because I’m going to be the type of fighter who puts butts in seats.”
| You mean like Shogun?
Or like fighters the UFC have already given you like Wandy, Forrest, Machida, Hendo, Jardine?
Or maybe his two title shots against Liddell and Bones?
I'm having trouble trying to think of a more ungrateful guy in the UFC
Dude comes in, gets a title shot in his second fight, gets a TUF gig, kills an unborn child and the UFC still stands by him.
Stands by him so much in fact that when he comes back they give him his rematch against Wandy that he always wanted.
Stands by him so much in fact that they give him ANOTHER TUF gig, then he screws the UFC over and leaves them to go make some BS movie, comes back, loses to Rashad, wins a ridiculously close fight against Machida, beats an unranked Matt Hamil, and what does the UFC do for him? Gives him ANOTHER title shot.
Finished?? Waaaait, thats right, after that, they give him another wish of his, to fight on the Japan card. And not only THAT, but against a seemingly hand picked opponant in Bader, who he by all rights, should have KO'd
Cry me a fucking river
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05-02-2012, 08:39 AM
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I actually want page to leave because I would love to see him fight fedor
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05-02-2012, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by NLRepublic You mean like Shogun?
Or like fighters the UFC have already given you like Wandy, Forrest, Machida, Hendo, Jardine?
Or maybe his two title shots against Liddell and Bones?
I'm having trouble trying to think of a more ungrateful guy in the UFC
Dude comes in, gets a title shot in his second fight, gets a TUF gig, kills an unborn child and the UFC still stands by him.
Stands by him so much in fact that when he comes back they give him his rematch against Wandy that he always wanted.
Stands by him so much in fact that they give him ANOTHER TUF gig, then he screws the UFC over and leaves them to go make some BS movie, comes back, loses to Rashad, wins a ridiculously close fight against Machida, beats an unranked Matt Hamil, and what does the UFC do for him? Gives him ANOTHER title shot.
Finished?? Waaaait, thats right, after that, they give him another wish of his, to fight on the Japan card. And not only THAT, but against a seemingly hand picked opponant in Bader, who he by all rights, should have KO'd
Cry me a fucking river | Wasn't it proven he DIDN'T kill the baby? Seriously that was years ago. Time to move on bud
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05-02-2012, 09:24 AM
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Rampage is a shell of his former self.
I like the Gustafson and Bonnar fights. If rampage is at his best then he beats both of them. He is above both of them. They would be mistaken to try and stand with him. But if he comes in like he did against Bader and keeps up his regressed standup style, then I could see both of them decisioning him.
I know he will never be what he could have been, its too late now, but he can still improve. He needs to ditch Wolfslair like Bisping. His standup is even more simplified now, most improvements he has made came from training with people outside of wolfslair.
Mo would also be a good fight, but he will probably be out for a while.
He has to realize even if someone is going to stand with him, they are going to be weary of his power and plan around it. If he just comes out with slow feet and just throws hooks and a few uppercuts, he will become far too predictable.
He needs to reunite with Juanito or find another great coach/team to work with. Quote:
Originally Posted by Rise then gets offered Shogun and instead all the sudden has a knee injury to deal with. | He had a knee injury ever since after the Jones fight, then worsened it in camp before the Bader fight. I dont know if your implying that he was ducking shogun... He has wanted that fight for years and years. Weather you think he would win or not, thinking he is ducking Shogun is false. He has gone out of his way to ask for that fight multiple times. Quote:
Originally Posted by NLRepublic a seemingly hand picked opponant in Bader, who he by all rights, should have KO'd | After everything he has said, Bader seems like a handpicked opponent? Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashy Larry I actually want page to leave because I would love to see him fight fedor | lol, not a bad fight at all. That would be the only good thing to come from him retiring. I still love to watch him fight, but even if you dont.... nobody wants to see him act. Quote:
Originally Posted by macewen Wasn't it proven he DIDN'T kill the baby? Seriously that was years ago. Time to move on bud | Yes, it was already proven. People still hanging onto the allegations.
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05-02-2012, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TBEAR Rampage wants to leave, let him.
I don't care if he ever fights again. | I agree with this. He is pretty much nothing more then a boring boxer now. For one second against Bader he became the Rampage of old when he slammed Bader. But then he became the Rampage of new when Bader bounced right back and striaght up gave him the second biggest beatdown of his UFC career (Jones being number 1 of course).
Rampage is old news and barely Top 10 now IMO. Let him leave and make B level action movies.
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05-02-2012, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by macewen Wasn't it proven he DIDN'T kill the baby? Seriously that was years ago. Time to move on bud | Got nothing to do with moving on, I never said I was or wasn't over anything, I am simply pointing out the fact that he is crying over the treatment the UFC has given him when the reality is, they treated him better than almost any other fighter on their roster. He went on a insanity induced joy ride through the city, and ultimately caused multiple accidents, including a full on police chase
The UFC literally did nothing but help him through this, stood by his side, helped him with all the legal issues he had,brought him right back into the fold, and gave him a fight he wanted for years. For him to question their match making or any treatment they gave him is embarrassing
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05-02-2012, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by macewen Wasn't it proven he DIDN'T kill the baby? Seriously that was years ago. Time to move on bud | You smell the hatred now? They can't... Quote:
Originally Posted by NLRepublic Got nothing to do with moving on, I never said I was or wasn't over anything, I am simply pointing out the fact that he is crying over the treatment the UFC has given him when the reality is, they treated him better than almost any other fighter on their roster. He went on a insanity induced joy ride through the city, and ultimately caused multiple accidents, including a full on police chase | Yes he was in a state of delirium due to an overdose of energy drinks. Tired of bringing this up... Quote:
Originally Posted by NLRepublic The UFC literally did nothing but help him through this, stood by his side, helped him with all the legal issues he had,brought him right back into the fold, and gave him a fight he wanted for years. For him to question their match making or any treatment they gave him is embarrassing | Rampage in turn made the UFC a lot of money and even brought in some new fans due to this A-Team movie. The relationship between the UFC and Rampage was anything but lopsided...
Given this is his career and hes the one in the ring doing the fighting he has every right to question or disagree with his opposition.
He is not a slave as James Toney was quick to point out.
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05-02-2012, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by rampage9712 Rampage is a shell of his former self.
I like the Gustafson and Bonnar fights. If rampage is at his best then he beats both of them. He is above both of them. They would be mistaken to try and stand with him. But if he comes in like he did against Bader and keeps up his regressed standup style, then I could see both of them decisioning him.
I know he will never be what he could have been, its too late now, but he can still improve. He needs to ditch Wolfslair like Bisping. His standup is even more simplified now, most improvements he has made came from training with people outside of wolfslair.
Mo would also be a good fight, but he will probably be out for a while.
He has to realize even if someone is going to stand with him, they are going to be weary of his power and plan around it. If he just comes out with slow feet and just throws hooks and a few uppercuts, he will become far too predictable.
He needs to reunite with Juanito or find another great coach/team to work with.
He had a knee injury ever since after the Jones fight, then worsened it in camp before the Bader fight. I dont know if your implying that he was ducking shogun... He has wanted that fight for years and years. Weather you think he would win or not, thinking he is ducking Shogun is false. He has gone out of his way to ask for that fight multiple times. After everything he has said, Bader seems like a handpicked opponent?
lol, not a bad fight at all. That would be the only good thing to come from him retiring. I still love to watch him fight, but even if you dont.... nobody wants to see him act.
Yes, it was already proven. People still hanging onto the allegations. | Bader is a wrestler, with far worse hands than Rampage. If this isn't a guy set up for Rampage to KO in front of his Japanese fans, then I don't know who is.
Rampage is highly ranked, they can't just throw Marvin Eastmans at him, no matter how much he wishes they would. A quick look at the top 10 LHW rankings (which is where Rampage's oppanats should be) and you can see there weren't many better match ups for him at the time
What top 10 would have been more suitable to appease poor Mr. Jackson?
Bones? Machida? Hendo? Rashad? Davis?
Gustaffson doesn't interest Rampage apparently, Shogun wasn't ready after the war he had with Hendo. Other than Forrest, I really don't see who else the UFC could have hand picked for him that would have more likely ended in a KO victory for Rampage in Japan
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