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[Umbras]

Originally Posted by Rise

He's probably thinking he's got 9 months of being able to cycle on/off anything he wants to now with no worries of any testing.

As part of his disciplinary proceedings, he should be tested on a monthly basis to ensure his testosterone ratios are maintained at the proper levels.

Of course it won't happen, but it is something that should be in place anytime a person tests positive for a banned substance, hopefully the new system Zuffa will be implimenting will have something along these lines.

[MIZjitsZOU]

Who gives a f*** if he is cycling on and off. If you had to fight someone right now who cares what they got in them. Beat the fu** out of them. Who cares. Even better, I dominated the dude on roids. Go to a gym you pussies. Everyone but us is taking the shiat. Lets fuck them up.

[Rumble]

Originally Posted by MIZJUDOZOU

Who gives a f*** if he is cycling on and off. If you had to fight someone right now who cares what they got in them. Beat the fu** out of them. Who cares. Even better, I dominated the dude on roids. Go to a gym you pussies. Everyone but us is taking the shiat. Lets fuck them up.

I wish everyone had this mentality when it came to sports.

[RearNakedStroke]

Originally Posted by Rumble

I wish everyone had this mentality when it came to sports.

I hope you guys are both joking.

[Cat--Smasher]

People should check out the Rogan podcast with Sonnen. I know most people will dismiss this suggestion just because it is Sonnen. Buuut... Sonnen talks the science of testosterone ratio levels and how 14:1 is not actually the equivalent of the testosterone of 14 men. Also seems the testing the NSAC does is apparently (according to Sonnen) not that accurate and if they wanted to honestly test athletes for what is in their system they would have to do blood tests for testosterone not piss tests (which can be skewed either way very easily by an imbalance in the body).

[Sniggles]

Originally Posted by Cat--Smasher

People should check out the Rogan podcast with Sonnen. I know most people will dismiss this suggestion just because it is Sonnen. Buuut... Sonnen talks the science of testosterone ratio levels and how 14:1 is not actually the equivalent of the testosterone of 14 men. Also seems the testing the NSAC does is apparently (according to Sonnen) not that accurate and if they wanted to honestly test athletes for what is in their system they would have to do blood tests for testosterone not piss tests (which can be skewed either way very easily by an imbalance in the body).

I rather enjoyed it.

Too bad there be too many haters of both Rogan and Chael up in here.

[roaddawg]

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

JDS will be waiting to strike him back down.

That is if he is still healthy and has the title in 9 months. Overeem is still a dangerous threat with elite k1 level striking. JDS has never fought anyone like him.

[disposableassassin]

Originally Posted by roaddawg

That is if he is still healthy and has the title in 9 months. Overeem is still a dangerous threat with elite k1 level striking. JDS has never fought anyone like him.

And he never fought anyone with the raw power of Shane carwin, he had never fought anyone with the jits of werdum, he had never fought anyone with the cardio of Cain, and so on and so on. What's your point exactly?

I am not saying alistair can't beat him but the thought that overeem holds some kind of edge because of his striking is laughable to me. JDS is no slouch on the feet either.

[Qball1974]

Originally Posted by rivethead

what's the over/under on how long it takes for the announcement that he's applying for TRT allowance?


7 months?

rh

Why not apply? they give it out like candy!

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by Cat--Smasher

People should check out the Rogan podcast with Sonnen. I know most people will dismiss this suggestion just because it is Sonnen. Buuut... Sonnen talks the science of testosterone ratio levels and how 14:1 is not actually the equivalent of the testosterone of 14 men. Also seems the testing the NSAC does is apparently (according to Sonnen) not that accurate and if they wanted to honestly test athletes for what is in their system they would have to do blood tests for testosterone not piss tests (which can be skewed either way very easily by an imbalance in the body).

Ah, but you're being misdirected. Have you actually heard anybody claim that he's got the testosterone of 14 men? Were they being serious, or joking?

The issue isn't that he's got the testosterone of 14 [or in Sonnen's case 17] men. The issue is that his T/E ratios are way out of balance, which is absolute indicator of a problem, and can't be explained away without acknowledging that there was something going on that shouldn't have.

99% of the public have T/E ratio's of 1:1. Absolutely and without a doubt, 100% of the public have ratios below 6:1, including the most testosterone-producing Olympic-level athletes on the planet. Anything above that indicates a concern. Even athletes recieving TRT injections shouldn't spike above the 6:1 ratio, if they're using it correctly.

Certainly, blood tests are a more accurate option. They're also more expensive and more time consuming. I've been a proponent for urinalysis testing with the option of blood testing as a back-up--at the fighters expense for a loooooong time now, but Kizer doesn't return my calls.

I think anyone requesting allowances for TRT should need to get additional testing at their expense, as well. They're the ones with the specific outlying issue, they are the ones who can pay to address it.

Originally Posted by Qball1974

Why not apply? they give it out like candy!

That was my point.

rh