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[goodtimes]

Originally Posted by Pasha K

I am not a kickboxing expert at all but IMO his size was a huge factor for his success.
Technically he is not bad at all, he is good. But he is not something amazing.

Jon Jones is an example of what is to be a very very skilled fighter and how to use your reach.
Schilt also knows how to use his reach but it is not that technically he is the most impressive fighter.

I have seen fights of him where he gets outclassed completely, but because of his size, he just has to land one good punch and the opponent will get rocked or KOd.

I watched live his last fight, against Brice Guidon. The first round was close, in the second round Guidon got knocked down twice because Schilt managed to land a couple of good punches and in the 3rd round Guidon absolutely dominated Schilt. Unfortunately Schilt won round 1 and 2 and earned a UD

I do not think that without his size he would be so succesful.

People criticize the Klitschkos saying that they are so succesful only because of the size and reach they have. That is BS. First of all both Klitschkos are waaay faster than Schilt, and they are very very technical, specially Wlad. Obviously the reach helps a lot but for me they are a good example of great fighters that also have great reach.
Schilt is obviously good, he did not became a K-1 legend only because of his size, but I think that without his size he would have been that succesful.

If the size argument for the Klitschko's is BS, let me ask you, do you think they would be as successful as they are if they were normal sized men?

I think no way in hell; their ability to jab from a distance and completely shut a guy down with the clinch is really hard to deal with. Definitely larger guys lose a lot of speed, but it seems like all the top heavyweights in boxing lately have been guys who are really huge and pretty fast for their size. Schilt is no different, his jab is absolutely killer and comes from so far away. He's scored maybe a dozen knock downs off of his jab, probably the most dangerous jab in combat sports.

The next big thing in HW boxing imo is David Price; 6'8", technically very sound, decent speed. Another pretty popular guy is Tyson Fury, he's 6'9", I don't think he's nearly as good, he's got a Tim Sylvia physique, but he's fun to watch. Anyways, this is where boxing and probably MMA are heading after seeing how successful Jones has been.

[lwbrewer]

Agree with most and no expert either. Size is a advantage and he had the talent and the brains to use it.

[rabidsponge]

it has to be somewhat a combination of his size and skills..otherwise a guy like choi would be a wrecking machine if it was purely based on size

[Sakara=Excitement]

Thanks everyone for your insight. Glad this didn't turn into a flame fest. I've been watching a ton of Mark Hunt's K-1 fights the last few days and caught his fight with Schilt where Schilt hit that spinning back kick to the gut.

Man if Schilt took to MMA sooner, learned BJJ he would of been really something.

Sounds vaguely familiar to a certain dutchman in MMA.

[goodtimes]

Originally Posted by rabidsponge

it has to be somewhat a combination of his size and skills..otherwise a guy like choi would be a wrecking machine if it was purely based on size

Ya for sure, I just think it comes down to if two guys are roughly equal in terms of athletic ability and training, and one has an 8" reach advantage in the same weight class, he's going to win.

[dbader08]

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

Thanks everyone for your insight. Glad this didn't turn into a flame fest. I've been watching a ton of Mark Hunt's K-1 fights the last few days and caught his fight with Schilt where Schilt hit that spinning back kick to the gut.

Man if Schilt took to MMA sooner, learned BJJ he would of been really something.

Sounds vaguely familiar to a certain dutchman in MMA.

I had a feeling Hunt was one of the reasons you were taking an interest to kickboxing...he is a very exciting fighter.

Hunt didn't look in the greatest shape against Schilt and he hadn't fought hardly at all in a really long time before that fight. It was a perfectly timed kick and shit happens when your fighting a giant.

His four fights against Le Banner are awesome.

[Sniggles]

Andy Hug was a fearless warrior. RIP.

Originally Posted by Sackman

Man if Schilt took to MMA sooner, learned BJJ he would of been really something.

Far too late in his career. MMA evolved to slow for Semmy to be able to train to get to the same level where he was at with kickboxing.

[Malevolence]

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

Man if Schilt took to MMA sooner, learned BJJ he would of been really something.

Originally Posted by Sniggles

Far too late in his career. MMA evolved to slow for Semmy to be able to train to get to the same level where he was at with kickboxing.

Schilt did actually start in MMA,his background is Karate but he'd had dozens of fights,mainly for Rings (Europe) & Pancrase & had fought for the UFC & Pride before he started his pro kickboxing career. He was actually more mobile & agile striking wise in his early MMA fights as he he was slimmer & less cumbersome than he was during his K1 stint. It was a timing thing I think,he was able to earn more $ as a prizefighter in K1 at the time (they were still paying good money & the cheques weren't bouncing yet) than he could in MMA,if he were in his prime now he would probably make more as an MMA fighter IMO.

To answer your original question Sakara,the size is an obvious advantage but he was a very disciplined striker,he knew what worked well for him & he stuck with it,straight hard punches & kicks,staying at distance & delivering damage,then monstering people when they were worn down. Fighting can be a very simple game when you have the physical gifts Semmy had,if you're clever enough to use them.