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[MIZjitsZOU]

Originally Posted by roaddawg

It's not a comparison of styles its a comparison of being smothered, overpowered and struck repeatedly making you reconsider that sub attempt.

Think about Cyborgs aggressive style. You have seen her fight I don't have to tell you what will happen if Rousey ends up on her back due to a failed sub attempt. I gurantee you like Fedor, Cyborg is dumb enough to throw all caution aside and move in for the kill.

This is the same woman that powerbombed Tito Ortiz.
Strikeforce Champ Cris "Cyborg" Santos Body Slams Tito Ortiz - YouTube


Now you just think about that for a second before you go betting on Rousey to pull off another miracle sub.

RD if you think Cyborg could power bomb Tito in a "randori"/live roll then you are high. They were flow rolling.

When you say "miracle sub" are you talking about the olympian who has finished all her fights by sub?

Did you call Fedor dumb?

[joeodd2]

It's interesting, now that Cyborg has been busted for steriods, many assume that she'd be a different fighter "clean". But what if she had been clean for most of her fights anyway? What if she really is a genetic freak? Naw....it's easier to think she cheated to get her body, and more fun too

Cyborg puts Rousey in a battered women's shelter, and inspires her to pursue a Hollywood career.......

[CtGreat]

Originally Posted by roaddawg

It's not a comparison of styles its a comparison of being smothered, overpowered and struck repeatedly making you reconsider that sub attempt.

Think about Cyborgs aggressive style. You have seen her fight I don't have to tell you what will happen if Rousey ends up on her back due to a failed sub attempt. I gurantee you like Fedor, Cyborg is dumb enough to throw all caution aside and move in for the kill.

This is the same woman that powerbombed Tito Ortiz.
Strikeforce Champ Cris "Cyborg" Santos Body Slams Tito Ortiz - YouTube


Now you just think about that for a second before you go betting on Rousey to pull off another miracle sub.

You can't possibly think that Tito was being serious with Cyborg in that video. I can show you a video of a kid landing punches on Silva in a sparing session, it doesn't mean anything. Tito would brutalize her in a real grappling match.

[joeodd2]

Dana White just doesn't want you to get "caught" cheating. If you get a note from the commish, then it's all good. Anyone who really thinks the UFC cares about fighters taking PED's is fooling themselves. They want shreded, faster, more athletic fighters. They don't really care how they are getting results, they just don't want to get burned by those who get caught. And look at the "suppliments" the UFC endorses, many of these "suppliments" stray dangerously close to the "PED" line, but until they are banned they are "legal". Every fighter looks for something to help them train harder, and give them an edge in a fight, not to mention prolong their careers......

[roaddawg]

Originally Posted by CtGreat

You can't possibly think that Tito was being serious with Cyborg in that video. I can show you a video of a kid landing punches on Silva in a sparing session, it doesn't mean anything. Tito would brutalize her in a real grappling match.

I believe the point is being missed. It's not about whether he let her do it or not but the fact that she showed enough power to pick up someone of his size from that position which is impressive even for a genetic freak like Cyborg. That was Tito's dead weight.

If she can do that to Tito imagine the power advantage she would have over Rousey. Whose to say Rousey can't get slammed on her head Rampage style. Also did we fail to mention that Cyborg has also been on a tear.

I wouldn't be so dismissive over her skillset because she got popped. Hell Chael got popped too but don't go thinking he isn't still a threat to Silva's title.

Rousey is not going to finish Cyborg like she did with Tate. They are two completely different fighters.

Originally Posted by MIZJUDOZOU

When you say "miracle sub" are you talking about the olympian who has finished all her fights by sub?

Did you call Fedor dumb?

Right now Rousey is a one trick pony and that arm bar submission is her bread and butter. If MMA history has taught us anything all tricks have a shelf life. Matt Hughes effectively shut down Royce Gracie because his style was studied time and time over. Rampage Jacksons boxing was effectively shut down by Machida, Jon Jones, Bader and arguably Rashad. Machida's lighting fast defensive karate style was shut down by Jon Jones. Anderson Silva style could have possibly been exposed by Chael Sonnen. In addition other fighters are now watching out for that Karate kid crane kick (notice noone other than Silva/Machida have found nearly the same level of success).

It won't be long for fighte to figure out the blue print to beating Rousey. Train for arm bar sub defense, keep her at distance and force her into a stand up game. If the fight goes to the ground smother her so she has no room to pull off any subs. When she goes for an arm punch/elbow her in the face.

If this fight ever materializes you will see what I'm talking about.


Also yes I called Fedor's fighting style very dumb (not the 1st time). There is no reason to fight an opponent where they are strongest when you don't have to. The end doesn't justify the means if you loose.... my 2¢

[SimpleJack]

I don't think Rousey has been hit hard and repeatedly like what Cyborg will do. That's the test.