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Originally Posted by FCK

Well you say that Bisping has held such high rankings in the MW division because he lost so well (basically) in the fights that he lost, but in many ways Chael did the same thing?

Chael beat 3 top 10 MW's. Bisping hasn't sniffed a win against a top 10 opponent...ever. So he didn't get ran through and that's his career highlight? Umm congrats?

Originally Posted by FCK

But Chael hasn't looked anywhere near as ferocious as he did in that fight.

What fight is that? The Anderson fight? So he wasn't ferocious we he AB-SO-FUCKING-LOOTELY tooled Brian Stann, a top 10 MW, and sub'd him? Yeah definitely not ferocious.

Originally Posted by FCK

Despite through his ban, and his fight with Stann, he has always been ranked in the top 3 with Okami and Belfort kinda slipping in around there.

Because he actually beats top 10 guys. You know, the thing Bisping doesn't do.

Originally Posted by FCK

I mean the guy cheated, and put on the performance of his lifetime whilst hopped up, and nobody questions he's a top 3 MW in the world.

Because he beats top 10 MW's. Unless of course Bisping isn't a top 10 MW. You tell me.

Originally Posted by FCK

How would Sonnen do against Belfort huh?

Let me pull out my magic 8 ball and give it a shake.

Originally Posted by FCK

How would Sonnen do against Okami?

He beat him and beat him badly. Ragdolled him for 3 rounds.

Originally Posted by FCK

How would Sonnen do against Munoz?

Refer to the Belfort reply.

Originally Posted by FCK

As well as he did against Anderson Silva? Hmmmm, the record says no.

Oh he only did the best that any man that hasn't beat him has done. Check out Anderson's highlight reel UFC career and you tell me.

[FCK]

Urrrgh that was a multi quote mess.

I'd say it was closer to 2 top 10 MW's really, as the other one was merely keeping somebody else's seat warm.

Sonnen ran through Brian Stann yes, but pretty much in the same way I (and A LOT of people) was expecting him to run through Bisping. I didn't expect Stann to offer so little resistance in the TDD department, and submission defence, which lets face it, was non existent. Sonnen was a horrible match up for Stann though. Best wrestler in the MW division against one of the best strikers? So maybe we shouldn't have been so surprised. Sonnen showed up how one dimensional Stann is, and how he wasn't really top 10 calibre at all with such a gaping area of skill lacking in his arsenal.

He did the best against any man has done against Silva, I never questioned that, but he was fighting with crazy high T/E levels as he did what he did to Stann over nearly 5 complete rounds.

Your answer to how Sonnen would do agaisnt Belfort and Munoz wasn't worth posting that image for.

I would love to see how Sonnen deals with Belforts speed on the feet and avoiding his punches. I think his decision to do TUF was a big mistake, as fighting Wandy was a potentially huge step down in rankings. I'm annoyed he's busted up from training and will be outta action for so long, but potentially he could fight Bisping, Stann or Munoz in future fights once they are all healed. Not sure what Okami is doing either but surely he should have a fight coming up soon.

Maybe Belfort is ranked a little too high in the top 10. He is a force to be reckoned with at LHW and MW as his skillset is broad and his striking elite. He's actually beaten 2 middle weights, but of course one was Rumble Johnson.

[goodtimes]

Originally Posted by H0SS

You know he already beat Okami, right? And that despite the T:E ratio, his actual levels were found to be within normal ranges. And he got clearance for TRT for the upcoming Anderson fight. And most importantly...

And where exactly are you getting this nugget of information from? Seeing as how it was pretty clearly stated by the CSAC that Sonnen had an illegal level of synthetic testosterone in his blood, and he was well above the range allowed for a TRT user, I'm calling bullshit.

Looking At CSAC Released Documents, UFC Fighter Chael Sonnen Steroid Suspension Should Be Upheld - Watch Kalib Run

The CSAC doesn't bust people on having high T/E ratio's, that is just a warning sign that signals them to take more tests. It just so happens that when someone's T/E ratio is that out of wack, they ALWAYS test positive for something else, because it's just not possible for someone to have a 16:1 T/E ratio naturally.

[H0SS]

Originally Posted by goodtimes

And where exactly are you getting this nugget of information from? Seeing as how it was pretty clearly stated by the CSAC that Sonnen had an illegal level of synthetic testosterone in his blood, and he was well above the range allowed for a TRT user, I'm calling bullshit.

Looking At CSAC Released Documents, UFC Fighter Chael Sonnen Steroid Suspension Should Be Upheld - Watch Kalib Run

The CSAC doesn't bust people on having high T/E ratio's, that is just a warning sign that signals them to take more tests. It just so happens that when someone's T/E ratio is that out of wack, they ALWAYS test positive for something else, because it's just not possible for someone to have a 16:1 T/E ratio naturally.

I never said he didn't have synthetic testosterone in his system. His ratio was 16:1. But you realize that there is a difference between ratios and actual levels right? His actual range of testosterone was never found to be above normal levels.

Sonnen

Because TRT involves a synthetic form of testosterone administered manually, it elevates the body’s ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone, which, in Sonnen’s case, triggered a positive result for performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs). His test ratio was 16.9:1, where the normal threshold ratio is 4:1. However, the CSAC did cite that, while Sonnen’s test results of the ratio itself were high, his actual range of testosterone was within the normal levels for adult males.

Did he get clearance from the commission to be on TRT in the first fight? No. Did he lie about it? Most likely.
Did they find his actual testosterone levels to be higher than allowed? No.
Will he be allowed to be on TRT for the rematch? Yes.
Will he have the same levels as before? Yes.

P.S. - When you call "bullshit" on someone, make sure you don't look like an idiot first...

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by FCK

Remind me again how Munoz was so much more skilled and dangerous compared to Sonnen? Hmm, aside from having slightly heavier hands, if Bisping had put on the performance he did against Sonnen, he would have pushed Munoz into cardiac arrest.

...another unintentionally hilarious post from our favorite pubescent brit. Saying Munoz's hands are only slighty heavier than sonnen's is like saying you are only slightly dumber than the average poster.

You'd be smarter to point out that Munoz has an even greater reach disadvantage to overcome than sonnen did, so Bisping could use his reach even more effectively...but if Mark managed to land any of the 15-or-so shots to the head that sonnen landed against Bisping, it's: good night, Mike.

Originally Posted by TBEAR

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As much as I like it dirty, I have to give you the exclusive scoop. I'm off the card. I failed the drug test.

See, I had a nipple ring infection that I got a shot for, from this doctor that I met in a strip club, he had an office in an upstairs hallway made out of cardboard boxes. So I gave him a handful of singles and he gives me a bump, and next thing I know I'm testing at 63:1. It sucks. I don't understand it. He had great references from both the DJ and Shayna, the matinee special girl.

It's ok, though; because my actual testosterone levels came in normal.

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

Good god imagine if Tim wins? Back to back wins over top 5 guys? That's title shot material right there folks.

Absolutely the first thing I thought of.

Originally Posted by CtGreat

My question is, looking at his reccord. How in fucks name could he be ranked #6 in the MW decision on the rankings last month here??! Never beaten a top 10 opponent in his career, yet he gets ranked that high?

He pays us in chips and vinegar, and bootleg copies of the British version of Coupling. That blonde girl is haw-ott!

Originally Posted by CtGreat

I'm going by the forrum rankings. The ones made by Dr.MMA, Rivet, Subdance, etc etc. honestly, they are generally the best rankings I've seen so I give ten allot of weight/credit.

Lol at Subdance...and thank you.

Originally Posted by Sniggles

They rank off not who a fighter has beaten but instead who they can beat.

No, we don't. I don't, and I don't think any of us do.

But for the record, I had Bisping at 9.

rh

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I got a filling Boetsch takes this like he did okami