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[Sakara=Excitement]

BJ is gonna get beat back to his PS3 by Rory. It's gonna be a bad beat down.

But then again, BJ always has the "He's not motivated" excuse his nuthuggers bestow on him.

[optimusjoel]

Originally Posted by The Donosaur

I wish I could rep GSP.

Polite or not what happened with the vasoline shouldn't have.

I like the attitude bj is showing. I honestly wasn't looking forward to him coming back at ww, but I really think he has a great shot at winning this fight.

[The Donosaur]

Originally Posted by optimusjoel

Polite or not what happened with the vasoline shouldn't have.

I like the attitude bj is showing. I honestly wasn't looking forward to him coming back at ww, but I really think he has a great shot at winning this fight.

Oh I agree the thing where bj made up excuses to justify losing shouldn't have happened.

[Fedorlei Gomipierre]

Does BJ think he's fighting Makdessi?

[initial_zen]

Originally Posted by Masscore

BJ Penn via RNC in the 2nd. Rory has no idea what he got himself into.

This would make me very happy.. I just hope for a great fight.

[The Donosaur]

Originally Posted by initial_zen

This would make me very happy.. I just hope for a great fight.

Since you neg'd me and your reason was "sure" why don't you explain how I am wrong. If GSP cheated why didn't Penn actually fight it. The dude can't accept losing he blames everyone else, but himself.

[Sakara=Excitement]

Originally Posted by The Donosaur

If GSP cheated why didn't Penn actually fight it.

Um he did. He even brought his Mom in to help him out testifying.

Nevada Athletic Commission Implement No Penalties On 'Greasegate' - MMA For Real

Penn's mother urges NSAC to punish St. Pierre "to fullest extent of authority" | MMAjunkie.com

Lorraine Shin, the mother of UFC lightweight champion B.J. Penn, addressed the commission and charged them with failing to properly protect her son in the course of the Jan. 31 contest.

The contents of Shin's address to the NSAC are included below:

"My name is Lorraine Shin, and I am the mother of Jay Dee Penn, also known as B.J. Penn. I have been involved in the MMA arena as a producer for years.

"I have and continue to support my four sons who have earned their black belt status in Brazilian jiu-jitsu. I have also had the opportunity of attending many Brazilian jiu-jitsu tournaments as well as MMA fight events in Hawaii, Guam, Japan, England and the U.S. Mainland. I am no stranger to the MMA fight world.

"During the past 12 years my sons operate and are instructors in the Penn Fitness and Training Center in Hawaii, which I have been very instrumental in its daily operations. My son, Jay Dee Penn, has also produced MMA events under the name of Rumble on the Rock in Hawaii and Guam, and later merged with EliteXC. As the financial adviser for the family, it was imperative for me to understand the rules and regulations governing MMA events.

"On Jan. 31, 2009, I was present at the UFC 94 event held at the MGM Grand Hotel in Las Vegas. The fighters in the main event were B.J. Penn vs. Georges St. Pierre for the welterweight title.

"I was sitting in the front row, near the entrance to the octagon cage, and clearly understood the seriousness of this fight that had been successfully marketed on prime time television.

"During the rounds that followed, I was shocked to see that B.J. appeared to be helpless, as well as defenseless in his attempts to grasp and hold Georges St. Pierre while on the ground. I silently kept screaming and asking myself, 'What is wrong? Why can't B.J. defend himself?'

"I was horrified with fear. My son was going to be seriously hurt because he could not defend himself.

"The match ended in the fourth round, and B.J. Penn lost by TKO when his corner stopped the fight. After the fight was over, I was led immediately to B.J.'s locker room. And knowing that B.J. was seriously hurt, when I reached the locker I heard loud voices yelling that GSP and his cornermen were caught by the Nevada (State) Athletic Commission for applying Vaseline on his body during the rounds and in violation of the rules.

"Although still in shock and fearful for my son, it then made sense to me why B.J. couldn't defend himself. Georges St. Pierre used a greasy substance on his body, therefore giving St. Pierre an unfair advantage over my son, B.J. Penn.

"While in the locker room, I couldn't understand why the fight was not stopped by the UFC's referee or the Nevada State Athletic Commission for the unfair advantage by St. Pierre and his cornerman after they realized the foul. How could this happen? Why was it allowed?

"There are probably several reasons, but the responsibility falls on the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

"The Nevada State Athletic Commission failed in their duties by not immediately notifying the Penn corner of the unfair use of greasing and Vaseline applied on St. Pierre, by not allowing the Vaseline to be removed properly off of St. Pierre, and by not taking the necessary procedures to protect my son from being seriously injured or killed.

"A rushed, quick wipe of St. Pierre's body did not properly remove the grease from the head, neck, chest, shoulders and back. It is the commissioners' responsibility to always protect the fighter from the unfair practices by others under the rules that govern MMA events in Nevada."

[The Donosaur]

Oh haha for some reason I was thinking he dropped it before it got to that point. Despite my memory lapse I still say that Penn is a cry baby jay. I'd say getting his mother to testify only helps prove my point. Don't get me wrong bj is insanely talented. My problem is he gets alot of credit for being a "warrior" (all fighters are but he gets more credit than most). Well it is easy to be a warrior when your fighting someone who you are better than, but what happens almost (emphasis on almost) everytime BJ has a tough fight on his hands. Warriors are people like Frankie Edgar, Chris Lytle, Roy Nelson, & Stephan Bonnar. Not a guy who always makes excuses for his losses. Everybody loses sometimes, but take it like a man.

[Sniggles]

Originally Posted by The Donosaur

Oh haha for some reason I was thinking he dropped it before it got to that point. Despite my memory lapse I still say that Penn is a cry baby jay. I'd say getting his mother to testify only helps prove my point. Don't get me wrong bj is insanely talented. My problem is he gets alot of credit for being a "warrior" (all fighters are but he gets more credit than most). Well it is easy to be a warrior when your fighting someone who you are better than, but what happens almost (emphasis on almost) everytime BJ has a tough fight on his hands. Warriors are people like Frankie Edgar, Chris Lytle, Roy Nelson, & Stephan Bonnar. Not a guy who always makes excuses for his losses. Everybody loses sometimes, but take it like a man.

I will have to disagree with you on that. BJ was right to bring this up and take this to the commission.

This vaseline incident changed the UFC for the better. Much more organization with cutmen and much less room for cheating fuckos like Akiyama.

Your definition of something is not others', you may be correct in your own mind but in others you are being extremely rude. Of course he is a fucking warrior. What does he do for a living? Does he work at Wal-mart or change tires at Cal-Tire? Nawp.

[The Donosaur]

Originally Posted by Sniggles

I will have to disagree with you on that. BJ was right to bring this up and take this to the commission.

This vaseline incident changed the UFC for the better. Much more organization with cutmen and much less room for cheating fuckos like Akiyama.

Your definition of something is not others', you may be correct in your own mind but in others you are being extremely rude. Of course he is a fucking warrior. What does he do for a living? Does he work at Wal-mart or change tires at Cal-Tire? Nawp.

I am not even gonna try to make it sound like I am disrespecting him. I know I am to an extent, but I do think BJ is a warrior. Its just he gets praised for being a warrior alot more than the average fighter. I'm not saying he is spineless or anything. Rather he relies on talent more so than heart. I guess my own personal definition of warrior is just a little off. I'm not trying to troll or anything.

As far as the vasoline thing goes, I don't believe GSP to be a cheater. So even if BJ did improve the system by crying grease he went after the wrong guy in my eyes. Other people think otherwise, and accuse GSP of being a cheater. As a GSP fan that offends me just as much as I offend others who don't like me calling BJ a cry baby. I realize it goes both ways, and sometimes I get a little to upset when discussing gsp-penn. Its just that he is my 3rd least favorite fighter, and my least favorite not named diaz.

I apologize if I offended anyone.