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07-22-2012, 07:27 AM
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Boetsch is still a top contender in the MW division. Even more so now. Especially more than Bisping. Deal with it.
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07-22-2012, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by rivethead Looks good for Weidman. I wouldn't have Weidman and Boetsch do a run-off, particularly since Tim needs time to recover from the broken foot.
I find it amusing that you're not embarrassed by your own posts. Boetsch didn't show you he was a top contender? What did Lombard show you? Because he showed me that he shouldn't be ranked as top 10.
rh | Lombard did not DESERVE mention. His performance was that embarrassing, I'm embarrassed by that. Tim on the other hand, is supposed to be a big bad ass UFC fighter that was going to "outclass" Lombard. That did not happen, instead he played footsie for 3 rounds and barely won. Neither guy has anything to be proud of from this fight. Both were too SCARED to make a mistake, and this was the fight that we got. It's Rashad/Rampage all over again, lots of talk about a KO and when the fight finally happened you had won guy stalking waiting for the KO to magically fall into his lap and the other guy looking to win on Points. Tim Boetch would get killed by Silva, he might as well go back to 205 or just hang around hoping Silva retires. And Lombard, give him one more shot at a contender and if he still has found some Viagra for his fight game then hell send him to fucking strikeforce......
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07-22-2012, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by joeodd2 Lombard did not DESERVE mention. His performance was that embarrassing, I'm embarrassed by that. Tim on the other hand, is supposed to be a big bad ass UFC fighter that was going to "outclass" Lombard. That did not happen, instead he played footsie for 3 rounds and barely won. Neither guy has anything to be proud of from this fight. Both were too SCARED to make a mistake, and this was the fight that we got. It's Rashad/Rampage all over again, lots of talk about a KO and when the fight finally happened you had won guy stalking waiting for the KO to magically fall into his lap and the other guy looking to win on Points. Tim Boetch would get killed by Silva, he might as well go back to 205 or just hang around hoping Silva retires. And Lombard, give him one more shot at a contender and if he still has found some Viagra for his fight game then hell send him to fucking strikeforce...... | Viagra is a performance enhancer from back in the day. Fighters nowadays use TRT. Get with the times.
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07-22-2012, 07:59 AM
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The fight was shit hell the main card was mostly shit. Tim didn't look bad in the first round and if this break in his foot is bad enough it would affect his whole game. It looked like from the first round that the plan was stick and move and wear hector down with leg kicks. A broken foot takes away leg kicks. It takes away movement which impedes the ability to slip punches. I'm not trying to make excuses I just feel like the injury needs to be taken into account. I personally would like to see the severity of the break.
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07-22-2012, 08:02 AM
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Yeah I think Boetch would have fought the same fight with or without the break, you heard him at the conference, he wasn't about to exchange with Lombard and I don't believe that he BELIEVED that he could hurt Lombard. So this was a fight he planned from the beginning to win on points, maybe catch Lombard coming in with a counter.....
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07-22-2012, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by lwbrewer FCK concidering you posted today after the fight all of the negitives you posted against Tim just makes Lombard look all the more worse. If Tim was so bad whats your excuss for Lombard? No I didn't feel it was a exciting fight to watch, but when two equals meet that sometimes makes a lack luster draw. | Lombards excuse? LOL
I haven't figured that out yet.
My initial thought was Octagon jitters.... Very very bad Octagon jitters.
I agree Lombard looked awful, but this is the first time Lombard has looked so useless and toothless like this. I don't have an excuse for Lombard, other than what we all saw was he clearly looked like crap that night too.
Boetsch however has looked the same terrible self in two fights in a row against Top 10 opponents and has beaten them through there own stupid mistakes and a WHOLE lot of luck. I mean when has Lombard ever let a man go from the turtle position into not a TKO finish?
This is a thread about Tim Boetsch more than Lombard after all.
Hell I think as punishment and a chance to redeem themselves as true top 10 MW contenders they should be made to fight again, and we can see the real Hector Lombard not let Boetsch get a win against him through sloppy technique and a flat footed paralysed by "jitters" opponent.
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07-22-2012, 09:45 AM
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There is no way in God's Green heaven or hell Dana White would ever make this match up again. And I can't really say that I blame him. When's Chris Leben coming back? Maybe the loser of Bisping/Stann should fight Lombard, or how about Mark Munoz? The 170lb option sounds intriguing as well, but I thin Hector is super strong for a MW and with a new camp he could become a super dangerous contender. He has good potential, and if running a 25 fight winning streak was so easy outside the UFC, then you would have a lot more fighters with those kinds of streaks, wouldn't ya?
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07-22-2012, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by FCK I totally agree.
Tim's boxing was sloppy and just awful at times. His defence was just as bad letting Lombard get of some wicked sniping punches from far too far away considering his reach disadvantage.
His leg kicks did look pretty good, but that was mostly down to Lombard just leaving it there to be kicked. It was good to see him throw the straight front kick, but he needs to get his eye in to use that effectively.
Again, Tim has gotten off another win from another very poor performance saved by his opponent letting him win I feel.
Lombard had Tim in all kinds of trouble throughout the fight, but he didn't swarm Tim, he just let him up. At one point Lombard had Tim curled up into a little ball, and all we saw was 4 pin point hammer fists? Tim can soak them up all day.
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Riiiiiiiight.
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07-22-2012, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement
Just like Lombard? Just like Okami?
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