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07-23-2012, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Pasha K Wow thank you so much for the shocking news! | Well it seems to be shocking to you.
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07-23-2012, 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Pasha K I mean people like Anderson, Chael. Bisping, Belfort (even though those two are not in the Top 5), Weidman, they all easily tool Boestch.
And just for the record, Okami was beating Boetsch. And IMO Lombard won this fight. | Really? you're going to rip on botesch, then include bisping in a top 5 list? At least tim has won fights against ranked opponents.
And again, as explained to kids like dbader a thousand times, stockton rules arent a real scoring method. Lombard didnt win that fight.
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07-23-2012, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by W.Silva>C.Norris Really? you're going to rip on botesch, then include bisping in a top 5 list? At least tim has won fights against ranked opponents.
And again, as explained to kids like dbader a thousand times, stockton rules arent a real scoring method. Lombard didnt win that fight. | I am basing my opinion on performances, not on Wins or Loses.
Boestch indeed has 2 victories over Top 10 fighters, but he looked very very bad in both of them. Okami was absolutely dominating him, he looked very bad against the worst Lombard we have ever seen.
It is not hard to see that Bisping is way more skilled than Boestch.
And it is not that I talking about Stockton rules, but why exactly did Boestch won that fight? He just landed low kicks. That was all!!!
Lombard landed the most significant strikes, he even scored 2 good takedowns.
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07-23-2012, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Pasha K I am basing my opinion on performances, not on Wins or Loses.
Boestch indeed has 2 victories over Top 10 fighters, but he looked very very bad in both of them. Okami was absolutely dominating him, he looked very bad against the worst Lombard we have ever seen.
It is not hard to see that Bisping is way more skilled than Boestch.
And it is not that I talking about Stockton rules, but why exactly did Boestch won that fight? He just landed low kicks. That was all!!!
Lombard landed the most significant strikes, he even scored 2 good takedowns. | We're still scoring on striking, grappling, aggression and octogon control right?
Id say botesch was the more aggressive fighter, and controlled the octagon, in the sense that he set up when and where exchanges took place. Grappling edge goes to Lombard, he had 2 takedowns, as you said. Striking Id say was in favour of botesch. Lombard landed a few solid shots, but Botesch landed much more frequently and consistantly (sp). Not the most impressive win, but judged correctly when you use the criteria.
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07-23-2012, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by W.Silva>C.Norris Really? you're going to rip on botesch, then include bisping in a top 5 list? At least tim has won fights against ranked opponents.
And again, as explained to kids like dbader a thousand times, stockton rules arent a real scoring method. Lombard didnt win that fight. | lol whatever you say tough guy. What kind of douche brings up "stockton rules" because someone called out the effectiveness of one's strikes? Pretty sure we have the right to do that whenever the hell we want. Imo, if fighters come to a fight with NO intent to finish, and to only win on points, that is a problem...and not only that, this was just a really close fight anyways. To act like its stupid for someone to think Lombard won is ridiculous. You may disagree, but that is no reason to be a condescending and childish asshole.
Lombard may not have won the fight but neither did Tim. Tim's leg kicks weren't doing much at all, which is why Hector still kept his lead leg pretty far out even after getting kicked. The only damage that was really done with those kicks was Boetsch breaking his foot (obviously him breaking his wasn't an offensive move for Lombard, just saying a true statement). He also got hurt bad with a liver kick, got taken down twice, and got hit with the harder punches. But he won the fight by plodding forward a little bit more and landing ineffective leg kicks? Righttt...
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