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07-22-2012, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by earle I'd have to agree at this point. Munoz blew it. Bisping is fighting Stann, Belcher needs one more. Boetsch wasn't impressive enough.
That leaves Weidman, who just came off an impressive performance. I think Weidman is more dangerous than any of those guys anyway. | Weidman also beat a very sloppy and apparently out of shape Munoz. Dude looked like he had the worse night possibly of his entire life.
I thinK Weidman needs to fight Belcher or Vitor.
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07-22-2012, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by roaddawg Weidman also beat a very sloppy and apparently out of shape Munoz. Dude looked like he had the worse night possibly of his entire life.
I thinK Weidman needs to fight Belcher or Vitor. | A win is a win. If it was a fluke Munoz can work his way back up, and rematch Weidman. Until that happens we should assume the better fighter won.
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07-22-2012, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by CtGreat Maybe I should say wrestler vs striker matches then. They often tend to be very boring matches where the wrestler either spends all his time Tryin to push the opponent against the cage due to failed takedowns or the just strow weak punches from guard with no attempts to really pass guard. | ...does Weidman even remotely resemble that description?
No. He does not. Even when you spell "strow" as "slow," there still isn't a resemblence. Quote:
Originally Posted by Cat--Smasher What other champ gets to pick and choose his opponents like Silva consistently attempts to do? Quote:
Originally Posted by CtGreat What other champ deserves to? Quote:
Originally Posted by Cat--Smasher No champ at all. Not even Anderson. | Quote:
Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement Really?
Well let's see:
Jose Aldo - 14 fight win streak, 5 title defenses
GSP - 2 time WW Champ, 9 fight win streak, 7 title defenses
Dominick Cruz - 10 fight win streak, 4 title defenses | | | None of them deserve to pick and choose opponents. It would weaken their divisions, and attack the integrity of the sport itself. Quote:
Originally Posted by roaddawg Weidman also beat a very sloppy and apparently out of shape Munoz. Dude looked like he had the worse night possibly of his entire life. | Nice effort at trying to devalue Weidman's win, but it's more typically bias-blinded bullshit from you.
Munoz didn't look great because Weidman is that much quicker than him. It was a great win, against a universally ranked top 5 guy.
The worst fight of Munoz's life was against Hamill at LHW.
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07-22-2012, 02:13 PM
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this is where id like to see Anderson go back to 205 to keep fresh against some heavier competition and let the contenders sort itself out... i believe Weidman need another fight to prepare himself because i still feel hes a little green but very talented.. i do rather like the thought of a MW contender tournament
while the tournament goes on Anderson gets a big fight while the popularity of the next challenger increases and will be another big PPV.. makes sense to me and no year and a half long bs.. should be quick turnover and if someone gets injured theyre out of the tournament and the other guy moves on but they still find a replacement fighter.. it sucks for the guy getting injured but there will be other title shots
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07-22-2012, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rivethead ...does Weidman even remotely resemble that description?
No. He does not. Even when you spell "strow" as "slow," there still isn't a resemblence.
None of them deserve to pick and choose opponents. It would weaken their divisions, and attack the integrity of the sport itself.
Nice effort at trying to devalue Weidman's win, but it's more typically bias-blinded bullshit from you.
Munoz didn't look great because Weidman is that much quicker than him. It was a great win, against a universally ranked top 5 guy.
The worst fight of Munoz's life was against Hamill at LHW.
rh |
agree with most of this - weidman is a killer and always looks for the finish.
i had been thinking that munoz really was just waaay off his game and seemingly injured or unable to cut weight as i remembered him looking really out of shape. but i re-watched the weighins and he looks energetic, not drained. and same thing at the beginning of the fight: a bit pudgier than usual, but nothing crazy. all the credit in the world to weidman.
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07-22-2012, 02:24 PM
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Rivet, I never said that's what I though of Weidman. Infact, I've been a big fan of his since before the Sakara fight. I was refering to striker vs wrestler matches in general.
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07-22-2012, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rivethead ...does Weidman even remotely resemble that description?
No. He does not. Even when you spell "strow" as "slow," there still isn't a resemblence.
None of them deserve to pick and choose opponents. It would weaken their divisions, and attack the integrity of the sport itself.
Nice effort at trying to devalue Weidman's win, but it's more typically bias-blinded bullshit from you.
Munoz didn't look great because Weidman is that much quicker than him. It was a great win, against a universally ranked top 5 guy.
The worst fight of Munoz's life was against Hamill at LHW.
rh | I don't care for Weidman or Munoz and you are one of the few people who thinks Munoz showed up with his A game.
Keep telling yourself that was all Weidman. Munoz looked like shit against Weidman... period
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07-22-2012, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by roaddawg I don't care for Weidman or Munoz and you are one of the few people who thinks Munoz showed up with his A game.
Keep telling yourself that was all Weidman. Munoz looked like shit against Weidman... period | So Weidman looked like you in a debate with rivet?
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07-22-2012, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rivethead None of them deserve to pick and choose opponents. It would weaken their divisions, and attack the integrity of the sport itself.
rh | I'm in agreement with you. But I felt he was saying that Anderson is so good that he can do that while the other champions aren't on his 'level' and I was more pointing out that some other UFC champs were doing just fine.
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07-22-2012, 05:41 PM
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I hope that Anderson doesnt want too much time off, or need time off for an injury...
Weidman is the most deserving at this point. It all depends on when Anderson wants to fight next, weather another fight will need to happen...
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