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[IceCold48]

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

Huh? I didn't quote you.

I quoted that troll POS. What are you talking about?

I think he was saying that by flipping out like that you were making it worse.

Ps I get great amusement out of forum arguments even when I'm in them.

[Dr. MMA]

Originally Posted by Fedorlei Gomipierre

I'm not too sure if ZUFFA wants to run the risk of having Shogun drop 3 straight against a piranha like Teixeira, given that his name isn't as developed yet.

I think they'll look to make T.Silva vs. Shogun next as originally intended

Originally Posted by IceCold48

Shogun just won how would it be dropping 3 straight?

Yeah I didn't follow that either.

Also, putting Shogun against T.Silva was a bad move before and an even worse move now. There is no point putting Shogun against two non-top 15's back to back especially given T. Silva is coming off a loss and is 1-3-1 in his last 5 fights. Lose-lose again for Shogun.

Originally Posted by _DCdoctr_

All of a sudden it got quiet when you walked in.

Seems lively to me.
And I suggest people stop continuing to fire back at 1in thechamber. He is going to be gone for an extended period of time.

[Sniggles]

Originally Posted by Dr. MMA

A few notes:
[1] Exciting night of fights with great finishes

Unquestionably.

[2] Rogan's commentary was atrocious in the Shogun/Vera fight and [especially] the Lauzon/Varner fight. Vera deserves some credit but Rogan made it sound like he was doing much better than he was. I was very surprised wit how many clean shots Vera took. Varner, on the other hand, was not gassed! To me, he was bouncing around a lot when the fight began but then got much more comfortable when he settled in his range. That was not a sign of fatigue. On a side note, I love Varner's combos which included body shots.

I believe the opposite Rogan was on top of his game during some nights of the fight but it is quite obvious that he is prone to his own personal views of a fight, which is what a commentator does. He does make mistakes but please name a better color commentator for the sport. Someone that has enough MMA, BJJ and Striking knowledge as he.

I see people make this bullshit argument all the time but you cannot name anyone who could do a better job under the pressure of the situation.

[3] Machida did look more impressive against a higher ranked opponent. Shogun had his moments when he was eating a few combos and the time when he was put on his back. That made me think that Jones would've capitalized on those moments much more, ala when they fought in March of last year. Machida, on the other hand, was the hammer the whole fight and Bader was the nail. Although I don't think any guy "deserves" the shot with what they have done thus far, Jones or Henderson will need an opponent, and right now the leader of that pack is Machida. Plus, stylistically Machida is a tougher test (as we saw) than Shogun (largely due to Shogun's non-existant TDD).

Lyoto did indeed prove himself to be a better contender for Jones than Shogun did tonight. Vera put up a struggle that was not lacking in heart tonight. Skill won over heart tonight in the main event, that's for sure.

[4] If Glover beats Rampage, I call Glover/Shogun, unless they decide to sign Gustafsson/Shogun. Both fights excite me. I would personally do Shogun vs Glover and Gustafsson vs Evans (if the MW rumours are not true).

Glover or Gustaffson would be a great matchup against Shogun. Something that would have finally come to fruition for both of their hard work.

[Fedorlei Gomipierre]

Originally Posted by IceCold48

Shogun just won how would it be dropping 3 straight?

You're right.

IDK, for some reason tonight struck me as a losing night for Shogun despite pulling the win, must've blurred my perspective....

That said, I honestly fear that Shogun's going to be a product of the "too many wars" syndrome and the wear feels like it's starting to really show. Considering that he hasn't strung together two straight wins in quite some time(factoring in the Machida decision loss), I'm not too sure if it is a good investment. Shogun's camp already turned down a proposed Glover fight, I don't know if they'd care to roll the dice against him....

[CtGreat]

Originally Posted by Sniggles

Not a good starting point when beginning to post at a forum. Especially when it is directed towards CT who is able to come to many unemotional logical conclusions which others are not.

I feel its best that we just all ignore him, i feel no need to make any more retorts. I mean, he said Jones wrestling isn't special because he struggled to take down Rampage......that doesn't warrant a response.

[Sniggles]

Originally Posted by IceCold48

I don't at all what regulars agree that he's that bad?

Also sniggles out of random curiosity what did your old name used to be? I was trying to remember it but I forgot

Degenero was my old forum name.

Quite a few have messaged me after I went after his shit several times. I am not compelled at all to name names and should not have to. It is quite obvious that Return makes emotional and nonsensical arguments.... most of which end up in name calling because he cannot win by way of pushing the argument in question.

Originally Posted by ichibabythecancrushe

how did we get off of ufc on fox to jon jones arguments

Because the main event and co-main event were based off of who will be the #1 contender for Jon Jones.

Originally Posted by CtGreat

I feel its best that we just all ignore him, i feel no need to make any more retorts. I mean, he said Jones wrestling isn't special because he struggled to take down Rampage......that doesn't warrant a response.

The guy was making some decent posts earlier in the week but it is quite obvious that we will not accept shitty personal attacks like keyboard warrior unless someone seriously meets the definition. Which was not the case.

Originally Posted by Leucoethiops

Don't mind me, I"m just posting random nonsense. I can't be bothered to go back and read the buildup to the drama.

Shut up keyboard warrior.

[Fedorlei Gomipierre]

Originally Posted by Dr. MMA

Yeah I didn't follow that either.

Also, putting Shogun against T.Silva was a bad move before and an even worse move now. There is no point putting Shogun against two non-top 15's back to back especially given T. Silva is coming off a loss and is 1-3-1 in his last 5 fights. Lose-lose again for Shogun.

My bad about the 3 straight comment. I think it had to do with Machida getting "the nod" over him, but I didn't see tonight as Shogun's shining moment...

I purposed T. Silva over Teixeira because I don't know how much Shogun really has left in the tank to go against somebody of Glover's ilk and I fear that a matchup against Glover ends very badly for Shogun. You're right, T.Silva isn't as highly ranked, but I think he's an easier fight for Shogun and if they're not giving him Machida III, I don't like how he matches up to alot of LHWs at the moment. Putting Shogun in a main/co-main against T.Silva gives ZUFFA another Shogun fight that guarantees fireworks, but prolongs their investment in him. IMO, Rashad and T.Silva are the two that interest me most, since Lil Nog's stock has decreased quite a bit and Rampage has a foot out the door.

I just have alot of concern over how much more Shogun can take.

[Sniggles]

Originally Posted by The Return Of......

well kid, you obviously suck at fighting if you rely on luck.

speaking of sucking you should go meet up with 1inthechamber. he seems to be obsessed with gay people and dicks in guys mouths.

This is why I have a problem with Return of VerbalHerpes.

[MIZjitsZOU]

What a great night of fights. War us fans. Hell yeah. First time I have been on the internet b/c I was behind on time. Glad Quick Swick won. Also thought Machida looked bad ass. Shogun was in a war against vera. Lauzon vs Varner was great.

I leave drunk and happy.

[Sakara=Excitement]

Originally Posted by IceCold48

I think he was saying that by flipping out like that you were making it worse.

Ps I get great amusement out of forum arguments even when I'm in them.

No he's referring to a conversation we had outside of the general forums.

Anybody lashes out at my friends I lash back, end of story.