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08-06-2012, 05:55 PM
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“It was a war, a cardio test, but we got the win”, his Muay Thai coach and head coach Andre Dida celebrates, aware of the mistakes to be fix for his next fight, still undefined. The main problem was his gas, once the former champion got tired after the very first round.
“Shogun did his entire training camp with me, Sergio (Moraes) and the team. Our game plan was making Vera feel his heavy hands and take him down to use Shogun’s Jiu-Jitsu, which was the easiest way for Shogun to beat him. Tactically it was alright, but it was really a surprise for us and also for Shogun that he gassed out”, acknowledges.
Dida tells that the goal was to explore the trade of punches and finish the fight on the ground, where the Brazilian was clearly better, and explains that the greatest goal was achieved: the win.
“A win is a win, it doesn’t matter if you score it with your head, shoulder or knee. Shogun knocked him out and did his job. I’m very proud of him and he proved he never gives up. Fighting him is always a war and he never surrenders”, highlights.
Many fans criticized Shogun Rua’s performance, once they hoped for an easy win, but Dida points out that fans of the Brazilian always expect for a deadly performance, like he was at Pride, which is not possible to do every time.
“Shogun has reached his physical peak already and it doesn’t come back”, said the coach. “I saw many people criticizing him, but the team approved his performance: he went for the knockout and won. You can always correct some details in your fight, like it happened this time but we’re going to fix it and get there”.
“We couldn’t work Shogun’s 100 percent on a fight but it will happen. We will do it and I hope it happens when we have a chance at the title. We’re getting along just fine and we’ll make it work”, concludes.
| Shogun’s team surprised with him gassing against Vera :: TATAME
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08-06-2012, 06:41 PM
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Really Shogun's camp? This is shocking to y'all?
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08-06-2012, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement Really Shogun's camp? This is shocking to y'all?
FML | oddly enough, they are the only ones who are shocked that he about ran out of gas...again
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08-06-2012, 07:17 PM
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One thing people often overlook is that Cardio levels are often very different from fighter to fighter/ person to person no matter how hard they train... Even if they both do the exact same work...
Everyone has a ceiling and limitations... Things like lung capacity and various other elements play into it.... Even if you trained as much as you possibly could that doesnt mean that you are going to necessarily have be able to do what guys like Cain, GSP, Diaz, etc. can do.
Just like speed or power. It can be improved, but only so much.
Im not sure if that is the case with shogun... But we hear a lot about it with him and guys like Penn as well.
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08-06-2012, 08:08 PM
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He didn't gas against lyoto.
What's funny to me is that ANYONE thought he would get the shot over machida after pissing lex Luther off about teixeira.
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08-06-2012, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SimpleJack He didn't gas against lyoto.
What's funny to me is that ANYONE thought he would get the shot over machida after pissing lex Luther off about teixeira. | Machida goes back countering all the time. Probably didn't mess with his cardio as much.
I love the Lex Luther comment!
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08-06-2012, 09:34 PM
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I didn't think anyone would be surprised with Shogun gassing. With Shogun I don't think its so much a lack of cardio as his style of fighting. He seems to do everything with ruthless intention. Whether its strikes, the clinch or takedowns he seems to put everything into it. He doesn't really walk/dance around and throw a lot of jabs like many fighters who are known to have exceptional cardio do.
I'm also not surprised to see Machida get the nod over Shogun. Not because Shogun pissed off Dana, but because Machida finished off a much higher ranked opponent much more impressively.
If Machida looked bad and Shogun tooled Vera, Shogun would have got the title shot.
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08-06-2012, 10:56 PM
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when you fight like a man you tend to get a little beat up and tired along the way but u find a way to win
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08-06-2012, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mmawolverine when you fight like a man you tend to get a little beat up and tired along the way but u find a way to win | Not always. Not against Forrest the first time. Or Machida the first time. Or Bones or Hendo.
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08-07-2012, 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by RearNakedStroke Not always. Not against Forrest the first time. Or Machida the first time. Or Bones or Hendo. | Ahhh he was on his way to winning the first fight against Machida and against Hendo though |
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