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08-16-2012, 02:36 AM
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The problem with BJ's trash talking is that it's hard to tell if he's serious.
With Sonnen you know he's talking BS 90% of the time because his claims are waaaaay over the top. Like demanding that Anderson's wife cook him a steak dinner. Nobody in their right mind believed that he was even remotely serious, becuase how would the mechanics of that exchange work? Sonnen flys to Brazil, hammers on the door of the Silva household, and when Mrs Silva opens the door Sonnen strongarms her into cooking him a tasty T-bone, medium rare? Of course not. Ergo, Sonnen was taking the piss.
But with BJ's claim about Rory, it's not so easy to tell if he's winding Rory and his camp up, or if he genuinely believes that Rory and his team sat down 10 weeks out from the fight and said, "Look, there is no way we can beat this guy. BJ is unstoppable, and this will only end in humiliating fashion for Rory, and forever tarnish our reputation. Bust out the razor blades, we're pulling out."
It's also an outlandish statement, but unfortunately for BJ he has a history of making outlandish statements - and then defending them to a degree that defies common sense. So when BJ says that he thinks Rory milked a bad cut to pull out of a fight because he was scared, I'm inclined to believe that he believes it is the literal truth.
If that's the case then BJ is borderline delusional. If he's actually being ironic then that's a humor fail on my part, and I will be deeply ashamed.
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08-16-2012, 04:33 AM
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BJ shut up and get your ass in shape...If you dont come in shape for this fight you will loose and have another excuse...Your not 25 anymore.
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08-16-2012, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement
Maybe to the death means something else in Hawaii | I believe we'll see the sequal when Rory gets his hands on BJ. Rory can put him out of business!
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08-16-2012, 06:40 AM
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Thank God this forum is here to remind me that BJ is a fat, loud mouthed, worthless can. I had somehow allowed myself to believe he was a pioneer in the growth of the UFC who has fought primarily elite fighters his entire career. Fighting elite fighters while being undersized more often than not. Yea BJ talks, he's earned that right. He also sells fights. Then he delivers on fight night.
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08-16-2012, 06:57 AM
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08-16-2012, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by grambino Thank God this forum is here to remind me that BJ is a fat, loud mouthed, worthless can. I had somehow allowed myself to believe he was a pioneer in the growth of the UFC who has fought primarily elite fighters his entire career. Fighting elite fighters while being undersized more often than not. Yea BJ talks, he's earned that right. He also sells fights. Then he delivers on fight night. | We forgive you.
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08-16-2012, 07:18 AM
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| Penn calls for MacDonald to be tested regularly between now and December Quote:
“If you’re gonna test you might as well test all the way through. It wouldn’t make any sense not to, you know what I mean?” he tells a Sherdog interviewer.
The two were originally set to meet at UFC 152 but MacDonald pulled out after suffering a big cut in training. The cut was over his right eye and according to his camp required 38 stitches to repair. He pulled out from the UFC 152 meeting but immediately became embroiled in a row about its rescheduling.
Penn wanted the fight moved to UFC 153, MacDonald’s team said that was too early to allow full healing and they asked for UFC 154 (coincidentally taking place in their home city of Montreal). In the end the dispute was settled by the UFC using the fight to beef up its FOX 5 card.
The whole thing took place against a backdrop of Penn’s implying that MacDonald is a steroid user. Penn had managed to get MacDonald to agree to undergo voluntary testing by VADA in the lead-in to the bout and conspiracy theorists seized on the pull-out as evidence MacDonald has something to hide.
Penn’s theory is that MacDonald “knew he was gonna lose”.
“I know the reason why Rory [MacDonald] pulled out on September 22nd. The cut is a detail but I know the reason why he pulled out is because he knew he wasn't gonna win… I've never heard of a guy pulling out of a fight 10 weeks early from a cut. Never in my life have I heard of a guy, 10 weeks before a fight, he got cut, he pulled out,” he told Sherdog.
“He feels he has to do what's best for him, for his team, they're gonna do that, but it's 100 percent fact that the reason why they pulled out is because they knew they were gonna lose on September 22nd. If not, you wouldn't pull out, you would go [on with the fight].”
Penn maintains that the cut, severe as it was, is not something that should stop a fight taking place ten weeks away. He claims he has been through similar circumstances and soldiered on.
“I had a cut on my eye, 13 stitches inside and out five weeks before the Diaz fight. Didn't care. Opened up from eight weeks every week all the way up to the fifth week before the Diaz fight but did I ever think about pulling out? Not even once.”
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08-16-2012, 07:37 AM
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I really don't think BJ is going to get in Rory's head, no matter how hard he tries with nonsense like this. Rory seems like a pretty introverted guy so I don't think it's going to bother him much, I feel like all this is going to do is motivate him to train harder.
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08-16-2012, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement What in sweet Baby Jesus name is a double moral? | It's like double-secret probation....but since everybody in Russia is already ON double-secret probation, they utilize the double moral tactic. Same thing happened in Red Dawn.
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08-16-2012, 09:28 AM
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According to mma stitches math, bj with 13 stitches at 5 weeks out and not backing out should equate to 26 stitches at 10 weeks out, which is what their fight was.... Since rory had an additional 12 stitches, that gives him almost 15 weeks. By my calculations, rory was well with this mma stitches guidelines to back out of the fight. That's how it works right? Lol
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