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[CapCee]

Originally Posted by CtGreat

In all reality, Evans actually tagged Jones more times than Machisa did and landed harder shots in their fight.

Plus he kinda lasted all 5 rounds, rather than getting choked nearly to death in the 2nd round...

[the_dark_angel_4ever]

Originally Posted by CtGreat

When has Joneever not fought who the UfC put infront of him? Hel, he even fought his former teammate.

What Jones says makes perfect sense, and that being said, I'm sure Jones will fight him when asked. He is simply stating his opinion.

How is this any different than GSP saying he doesn't want to fight Condit and would much rather fight Diaz?

Well, firstly GSP wanted to fight Diaz because they have a legitimate beef. GSP didn't simply say he didn't want Condit, he offered up a suitable alternative. George also made no mention of money when that whole ordeal was happening. Definite difference.

[CtGreat]

Originally Posted by Flynnja

Well ya... it was 5 rounds compared to 2. If he didn't outland Machida it would be pretty sad o.O Harder shots? This your opinion right?

Rashad rocked jones with a big overhand right and a headlock. Machida actually never rocked Jones but he knocked him off balance with a punch as jones was throwing a leg kick. Yes, I would say Evans landed harder shots.

Cat, Silvas toughest fight was the First Sonnen fight, there's no way The franklin fight was toughest for him, he murdered Franklin both times haha. Your toughest fight isnt always when you loose. It can also be which fight required you to overcome the most adversity/wore you out the most.

[Y2JUBAE]

I really want to like Jones and I did before he started doing interviews and got all this fame... but man, he sounds like a spoiled bitch right about now.

[Kimbo> Rampage]

Didnt have to wait long for to see people act like Jones is scared of Machida... The guy who he finished...

You can understand why some fighters are not fan of rematches... especially when it was a decisive win... Jones and Anderson are not the only ones. Everyone is not Frankie Edgar.

The Finish in Jones/Machida came fast... but if you look at what Jones was able to do, it hard to see Machida beating him...

He took Lyoto down, landed a huge elbow, cutting him open. He then dropped him with a right then chocked him unconscious.

I still say Machida is Jones's biggest threat at LHW, but that isnt saying much.

If Jones plans to stay at LHW for a long time then he is going to have to rematch some of these guys. He has already beaten the best of the division, and they will earn their rematches.

Originally Posted by KevoOnTheRadio

The pieces are starting to fall into place. Chael/Jones for the title by this time next year.

Sounds good. Im sure the UFC will be looking for that as well. They know that Sonnen can sell. The hard part is convincing people he deserves the shot. He will have to beat a top LHW to convince most people. That will be difficult for him to do.

[1inthechamber]

Jones is already whining over opponents lol, if you don't like it man up and take a fight at hw to fight someone your size. Oh I forgot, even Dana doesn't like that idea because like he said "heavyweight is a whole other animal".

I wasn't giving hendo a big chance but seems like he's looking past him lol. Nothing would be better than to see him laid stiff with hendo walking away and also having the most accomplished mma career.

[Fedorlei Gomipierre]

As time goes by, Jones becomes more and more the living embodiment of the stereotypical cautionary tale of athletes who begin to believe their own hype with the more fame and success they obtain. Jones comes across here as all about the payday rather than a warrior's spirit and with the air of superiority, I think alienates fans.

He's an amazingly gifted fighter, but I fear that he has experienced "too much, too soon" and isn't mature enough to appropriately handle his situation with the necessary grace and insight. In turn, Jones often comes across as obnoxious and arrogant, a rich jock who is becoming increasingly difficult to root for. I don't like Jones' personality, I think he's becoming too much like Rocky Balboa in the first half of III, Tommy Gunn in V or even Steamin' Willie Beamen, or any number of ridiculously successful non-fictional athletes. Maybe it will take a Matt Serra fight to bring him back down to reality.

All that said, PR is a BIG part of this. He needs the appropriate training and protection of a management team who will teach him what not to say and how to come across, so he doesn't lose fans. Randy Couture and Forrest Griffin were longtime fan favourites based off of their public perceptions, while behind the scenes, where regarded as total pricks. I think a tighter control on his mainstream image at this juncture is paramount and the crafting of a fan-friendly image is part of that.

[CtGreat]

@arielhelwani Everything @jonnybones says makes sense. Funny, nobody bit Randy's head off when he said he didn't want to rematch Rizzo.

Paul Lenzby tweeted this to Ariel.

@arielhelwani This is a game that I love but its also a JOB. Some people just don't understand business and I'm not saying sorry that I do

Jones just tweeted that.


I don't get the backlash. Jones said he didn't WANT to fight him again so soon, not that he WOULDNT fight Machida...But whatever haters may hate

[AnchorPunch]

Originally Posted by rampage9712

Didnt have to wait long for to see people act like Jones is scared of Machida... The guy who he finished...

Not a single person has even suggested that Jones is scared. I will, however, say he's acting like a prick.

Originally Posted by CtGreat

I don't get the backlash. Jones said he didn't WANT to fight him again so soon, not that he WOULDNT fight Machida...But whatever haters may hate

It's that he specifically said he didn't want a harder fighter for less money. To that:

1. You're the champ, you're supposed to look for difficult fights and challenge yourself. It's the reason BJ is a legend.

2. Anyone who whines about making, say, 300k in a single night instead of 310k, is an asshole.

3. Per (2), the difference in PPV buys between the Machida fight and the Shogun fight is noise, nothing more.

[trustkill]

I think some (but not all) of the criticism is unfounded. In the ideal world, a champion shouldn't be turning down challengers. But in the ideal world, there should be a legitimate #1 challenger. Lyoto is my favorite fighter, but he doesn't deserve another title shot at this point. Period.

Jones acknowledges that fighting Machida is risky--he gives him props, repeatedly. He very clearly states his position. The new Nike deal he signed gives him a revenue stream that Zuffa can't control, and as an effect, he's got a lot more power in the negotiations. He'd be a fucking fool not to use that leverage. Call him cocky, but he's not stupid. Zuffa needs this fight more than Jon Jones does. I don't blame him at all.