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[CtGreat]

Originally Posted by AnchorPunch

Not a single person has even suggested that Jones is scared. I will, however, say he's acting like a prick.



It's that he specifically said he didn't want a harder fighter for less money. To that:

1. You're the champ, you're supposed to look for difficult fights and challenge yourself. It's the reason BJ is a legend.

2. Anyone who whines about making, say, 300k in a single night instead of 310k, is an asshole.

3. Per (2), the difference in PPV buys between the Machida fight and the Shogun fight is noise, nothing more.

I don't think jones would make such a statement like this without knowing what he was talking about interms of him making money. Id wager there's more money in this than is listed there.

BJ is an anomaly, he was never fighting for money in the first place, where as Jones has Always been in it for the money. He started fighting because he needed money since he had a baby on the way. BJ comes from one of the wealthiest families in Hilo, he literally fights for shits and giggles.

[trustkill]

Originally Posted by Cat--Smasher

Well to be fair, Anderson Silva is his role model.

I must critique this comment. Anderson was ducking Chael--the guy who Anderson would make the most money fighting against. Anderson couldn't use $$$ as an excuse not to fight Chael, but Jones is entitled to use $$$ not to fight Lyoto. A guy he finished like a year ago.

Jones knows that the UFC is in a tough spot and doesn't have a legit contender. All he's doing is asking the UFC to make it worth his while, since he'd be doing them a favor to hype a fight that he genuinely isn't interested in.

[AnchorPunch]

Originally Posted by CtGreat

I don't think jones would make such a statement like this without knowing what he was talking about interms of him making money. Id wager there's more money in this than is listed there.

BJ is an anomaly, he was never fighting for money in the first place, where as Jones has Always been in it for the money. He started fighting because he needed money since he had a baby on the way. BJ comes from one of the wealthiest families in Hilo, he literally fights for shits and giggles.

Good point about BJ. But it's the combo of "harder fighter for less money." He went further than even just pulling the Silva line of only wanting big $ fights.

[Pasha K]

At least I am glad that he decided to forget about his "Humble role model" fake ass persona and is showing what kind of douche he really is.

Not to mention that with a comment like this he is obvioulsy overlooking Hendo.

Maybe Jon's point is not that absurd, but he is the champion and he must fight whoever they put in front of him.

Damn, I really hope he eats an H-Bomb. Then he can go back and take pics of himself in gay poses and showing duck lips.

[opiumdeth]

Lets go Hendo Lets go *clap clap clap*.

OT: Though i don't think Machida should be fighting for the title quite yet its up to the almighty Dana who he fights, so his opinion is just that an opinion.

[roaddawg]

Originally Posted by Leucoethiops

I don't like Jones, but what he says makes sense. I mean, he'll be perceived as whining and trying to pick fights, which he is; but he's already fought essentially every elite in the division; what does he expect to happen?

Here are your options: Fight Machida and perhaps earn less than you would like, or, fight no one and earn even less.

Could have used your support in the AS vs Weidman thread... Unless ofcourse you feel Machida isn't the number 1 contender.

[joeodd2]

LOL Jones is playing you guys like a fiddle.....you think he doesn't know what's being said on the boards and how to manipulate the "fans". He's made his peace with most fans hating him, and he's doing the smart thing and going with it. His dismissing Hendo in public to make Hendo's fans upset, so upset they are guaranteed to buy the PPV and maybe even promote it even harder to their friends who might just be casual fans. With Lyoto, he's right. The buy rates are going to absolutely suck, there's no way in hell you are going to convenience the majority of fans that the rematch will look any different than the first fight. But stating that to the media only increases the angst that fans feel toward him and makes them more inclined to tune in just to watch him lose. My hat's off to Mr. Jones.

[Fe1]

"But Uncle Dana, I don't want to fight him again. Last time he punched me in the face"
But seriously, IF Jones gets past Hendo, I wouldn't surprised if the Machida fight ends up not happening. It wouldn't be the first time Dana screwed over someone that he promised a title shot to. Okami comes to mind. In any case, this sounds like Jones is really looking past Henderson. Not a good move. You can never count that guy out

[DaSpiderFan24]

Originally Posted by MMA4EVERRR

What part of what Jones has said, makes perfect sense?
Lets look at the facts:
UFC 128: Shogun vs. Jones......490k PPV buys
UFC 135: Rampage vs. Jones......520k PPV buys
UFC 140: Machida vs Jones.....485k PPV buys
UFC 145: Evans vs. JOnes......700k PPV buys

Outside of the Evans fight, which had a lot of history between the 2, and the back n forth exchange of words, mainly due to the Evans skill of knowing how to build up a fight, the other 3 defenses were in the same neighborhood of PPV buys. His argument is invalid.

Problem is Jones isnt a PPV draw. He has fought 2 opponents who have history of knowing how to sell a fight (Evans, Rampage) and 2 who do decent numbers of selling a fight due to their exciting fighting style (Shogun, Machida).

What the? Jones isnt a PPV draw??? Jones' fighting style is unorthodox and exciting in itself, not to mention he finished the guys you said sell fights because of their fighting styles. To say he isnt a draw is pretty ridiculous, sir.

[Fe1]

Originally Posted by MMA4EVERRR

What part of what Jones has said, makes perfect sense?
Lets look at the facts:
UFC 128: Shogun vs. Jones......490k PPV buys
UFC 135: Rampage vs. Jones......520k PPV buys
UFC 140: Machida vs Jones.....485k PPV buys
UFC 145: Evans vs. JOnes......700k PPV buys

Outside of the Evans fight, which had a lot of history between the 2, and the back n forth exchange of words, mainly due to the Evans skill of knowing how to build up a fight, the other 3 defenses were in the same neighborhood of PPV buys. His argument is invalid.

Problem is Jones isnt a PPV draw. He has fought 2 opponents who have history of knowing how to sell a fight (Evans, Rampage) and 2 who do decent numbers of selling a fight due to their exciting fighting style (Shogun, Machida).

Jones vs Shogun only sold 5k more but I bet that he would have no problem with that rematch. I bet he'd be all over a rematch with someone that he dominated. I think Jones is scared... There I said it