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08-18-2012, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DaSpiderFan24 What the?  Jones isnt a PPV draw??? Jones' fighting style is unorthodox and exciting in itself, not to mention he finished the guys you said sell fights because of their fighting styles. To say he isnt a draw is pretty ridiculous, sir. | But to be fair, the numbers are right there. Jones ISN'T much of a draw. You can argue that he SHOULD be, and I'd agree with you, but Jones by himself just isn't yet.
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08-18-2012, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Fe1 Jones vs Shogun only sold 5k more but I bet that he would have no problem with that rematch. I bet he'd be all over a rematch with someone that he dominated. I think Jones is scared... There I said it | Now that's just silly, and I don't take you to be a silly person.
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08-18-2012, 02:14 PM
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Before we all jump on the hate Jon Jones movement again why don't we wait til after the Hendo fight (assuming he wins) and see if he actually causes any problems taking the rematch with Lyoto. Cause at the moment he is just stating an opinion which he should be free to do.
Honestly how many people here think Lyoto has earned a rematch in the first place?
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08-18-2012, 03:01 PM
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lol wow. This guy...he wonders why so few people like him... Quote:
Originally Posted by DaSpiderFan24 What the?  Jones isnt a PPV draw??? Jones' fighting style is unorthodox and exciting in itself, not to mention he finished the guys you said sell fights because of their fighting styles. To say he isnt a draw is pretty ridiculous, sir. | Look at the numbers, he's not one of the biggest draws this sport as seen. Outside of hardcores, people aren't tuning into see Jon Jones. Most people don't even know who he is.
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08-18-2012, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Ramma lol wow. This guy...he wonders why so few people like him...
Look at the numbers, he's not one of the biggest draws this sport as seen. Outside of hardcores, people aren't tuning into see Jon Jones. Most people don't even know who he is. | I agree. I honestly think most of the buys came from his opponents (shogun, rampage..) or people who just wants him to see get beat up |
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08-18-2012, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Fe1 Jones vs Shogun only sold 5k more but I bet that he would have no problem with that rematch. I bet he'd be all over a rematch with someone that he dominated. I think Jones is scared... There I said it | MACHIDA: Yeah That's right! You better run Jones!!! You better run! Just wait till I wake up! It's gonna be ON! Don't hold me back Ref!
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08-18-2012, 03:42 PM
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I don't get it. What's the point of saying you don't want to fight the number 1 contender? It makes you look weak, and you still end up having to fight him.
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08-18-2012, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Fe1 Jones vs Shogun only sold 5k more but I bet that he would have no problem with that rematch. I bet he'd be all over a rematch with someone that he dominated. I think Jones is scared... There I said it | He did dominate Machida.
He got hit with one good shot and arguably lost a very uneventful first round.
He took Machida down, landed his elbow, dropped him, then chocked him unconscious. Quote:
Originally Posted by trustkill I must critique this comment. Anderson was ducking Chael--the guy who Anderson would make the most money fighting against. Anderson couldn't use $$$ as an excuse not to fight Chael, but Jones is entitled to use $$$ not to fight Lyoto. A guy he finished like a year ago.
Jones knows that the UFC is in a tough spot and doesn't have a legit contender. All he's doing is asking the UFC to make it worth his while, since he'd be doing them a favor to hype a fight that he genuinely isn't interested in. | When did Anderson do that? He fought Vitor and Okami while Sonnen was suspended... And fought Sonnen his very next fight, when he was able to compete again after his surgery. Quote:
Originally Posted by the_dark_angel_4ever But to be fair, the numbers are right there. Jones ISN'T much of a draw. You can argue that he SHOULD be, and I'd agree with you, but Jones by himself just isn't yet. | If your going straight off the numbers Jones is a big draw. He has been pulling around 500k buys. Only Lesnar, GSP, Evans and AS have been over that multiple times... as well as Liddell and Couture in the past.
I do agree that who he was fighting has to do with the fight selling, but you cannot use the numbers to say he is a bad draw. Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramma Look at the numbers, he's not one of the biggest draws this sport as seen. Outside of hardcores, people aren't tuning into see Jon Jones. Most people don't even know who he is. | Few are better currently in the UFC. GSP, AS... possibly Evans and Rampage. Even BJ hasnt consistently shown that kind of #.
He has sold decently since becoming champion. Who he was fighting has a lot to do with it, but that will only help his stock. His fighting style, and dominating well known elite fighters will catch interest. People who tuned in to watch Shogun, Rampage, Evans, Machida for their fight with Jones, may now want to see him.
He is surpassing guys like Edgar by at least double. You could say "Most people dont know who he is" about any fighter. Jones also seems to catch a lot more media attention than the smaller champs like edgar, cruz, aldo.
dont expect him to be GSP or AS overnight. He has all the potential to get there.
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08-18-2012, 04:43 PM
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Let's be serious for a second.
Jones was probably too busy concentrating on driving when he said this.....oh wait.
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