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[Fe1]

Originally Posted by Sniggles

The champion should be able to dictate the terms to the challenger.

Cyborg made herself irrelevant by taking roids, imo. There's a reason why she can't make 135.

I couldn't agree more. If she's had trouble making weight in the past, all she had to do was lower her dossage lol. When she tested hot I can't say I was suprised but when it happend she lost all credibility as the top female fighter. If she were to take this fight and win, she would certainly get some of that credibility back.

[Rise]

Originally Posted by H0SS

Really? I think most people believe that Cyborg would own Ronda. Although Ronda has a belt and Cyborg was stripped of hers, I still view Ronda in the challenger role since Cyborg is considered "the man" (no pun intended ;P ) in WMMA.

I think alot of people are really wondering who would win in a fight if Cyborg didn't use steroids to get up to the size she is. I'm thinking 135 wouldn't be so hard for Cyborg to make if she hadn't.

Before you say it yes I know Winstrol is a cutting agent.

[sonofsteven]

Originally Posted by dimerules28

Women's mma?? Dont care.

Don't fucking post on the thread about it then.

Originally Posted by H0SS

Really? I think most people believe that Cyborg would own Ronda. Although Ronda has a belt and Cyborg was stripped of hers, I still view Ronda in the challenger role since Cyborg is considered "the man" (no pun intended ;P ) in WMMA.

I think it is a classic striker vs grappler matchup that could go either way. After that ronda and her sub skills are the real deal i wouldn't be surprised to see her get another W.

[1inthechamber]

The difference here is Ronda has fought at 145 while Cyborg has never fought at 135 and has had trouble making 145 recently. Regardless, I think Cyborg needs to string a few victories together, she shouldn't risk coming in rusty for a fight with Ronda anyway.

[Luc1an]

Originally Posted by Rise

I think alot of people are really wondering who would win in a fight if Cyborg didn't use steroids to get up to the size she is. I'm thinking 135 wouldn't be so hard for Cyborg to make if she hadn't.

Before you say it yes I know Winstrol is a cutting agent.

exactly. Winstrol is of no use for bulking cycles. She didnt test positive for elevated levels of test did she? (im asking cuz im not sure).

[sonofsteven]

Originally Posted by 1inthechamber

The difference here is Ronda has fought at 145 while Cyborg has never fought at 135 and has had trouble making 145 recently. Regardless, I think Cyborg needs to string a few victories together, she shouldn't risk coming in rusty for a fight with Ronda anyway.

I think that would be a good argument for RR to move up if Santos hadn't gotten popped. It would be a good champ vs champ sell. RR is owning her div. and should by no means give in to the demands of a suspended, cheater with no belt.

Originally Posted by Luc1an

exactly. Winstrol is of no use for bulking cycles. She didnt test positive for elevated levels of test did she? (im asking cuz im not sure).

Well the cutting cycle is performed directly after the bulking cycle so cutting agents greatly benefit your bulk by letting it be seen .

[Cat--Smasher]

Originally Posted by d-low

Cyborg is comming off as being very jealous of Rhonda right now due to her being in the spotlight and paving the path for women's MMA...You dont callout Rhonda and tell her to go to your weight...Much like Overeem, she's trying to hype a fight in order to stay relevant and help repair her damaged career

Take a guess who is the head of her management team?

Tito Ortiz. Got to wonder if this is really his mouth behind her.

UFC hall of famer Tito Ortiz opens sports-management agency in Huntington Beach - MMAmania.com

[Ramma]

Lol, I swear...

Rousey says, "I'm the champion now. She needs to come to me!" and like a bunch of trained parrots, people start repeating, "She's the champion now. She needs to go to her!"

It's a shame Rousey doesn't have nuts. I see plenty of people looking to hug.

Let's look at the reality. Rousey was calling out Cyborg at Cyborg's weight class. Rousey challenged Cyborg. Are we keeping up? Rousey leaves the division, wins a title. Now, at a lower weight class, Rousey is saying Cyborg needs to come to her as if Cyborg had been rallying and demanding for Rousey to fight her.

You make a challenge at 145, you run to 135 and then you play the "you gotta come to me!" card? Be serious...

Lol imagine if Chael Sonnen, before their first fight, did all the fight hype for Anderson Silva, cut down to 170, beat Georges St. Pierre, won the title, and then said, "Come at me Silva! Let's go!" I'm sure you'd all be agreeing with Chael. Right? Right? Yeah...

[sonofsteven]

Originally Posted by Ramma

Lol, I swear...

Rousey says, "I'm the champion now. She needs to come to me!" and like a bunch of trained parrots, people start repeating, "She's the champion now. She needs to go to her!"

It's a shame Rousey doesn't have nuts. I see plenty of people looking to hug.

Let's look at the reality. Rousey was calling out Cyborg at Cyborg's weight class. Rousey challenged Cyborg. Are we keeping up? Rousey leaves the division, wins a title. Now, at a lower weight class, Rousey is saying Cyborg needs to come to her as if Cyborg had been rallying and demanding for Rousey to fight her.

You make a challenge at 145, you run to 135 and then you play the "you gotta come to me!" card? Be serious...

Lol imagine if Chael Sonnen, before their first fight, did all the fight hype for Anderson Silva, cut down to 170, beat Georges St. Pierre, won the title, and then said, "Come at me Silva! Let's go!" I'm sure you'd all be agreeing with Chael. Right? Right? Yeah...

If Silva's belt was taken for juicing then the ball would be in Chael's court. That's the catch IMO. I would be making RR out to be a hippocrite as you are doing, and I would use your exact reason to do so if Cyborg were still the badass champ she was but she isn't she is a beltless , suspended , cheater. Still very talented i'm sure but she has zero reason to demand anything from onyone now. Previous challenges be damned the ball is in RR's court as it should be.

[Cat--Smasher]

Originally Posted by Ramma

Lol, I swear...

Rousey says, "I'm the champion now. She needs to come to me!" and like a bunch of trained parrots, people start repeating, "She's the champion now. She needs to go to her!"

It's a shame Rousey doesn't have nuts. I see plenty of people looking to hug.

Let's look at the reality. Rousey was calling out Cyborg at Cyborg's weight class. Rousey challenged Cyborg. Are we keeping up? Rousey leaves the division, wins a title. Now, at a lower weight class, Rousey is saying Cyborg needs to come to her as if Cyborg had been rallying and demanding for Rousey to fight her.

You make a challenge at 145, you run to 135 and then you play the "you gotta come to me!" card? Be serious...

Lol imagine if Chael Sonnen, before their first fight, did all the fight hype for Anderson Silva, cut down to 170, beat Georges St. Pierre, won the title, and then said, "Come at me Silva! Let's go!" I'm sure you'd all be agreeing with Chael. Right? Right? Yeah...

I get what you are saying but you leave out the part about Cyborg getting caught cheating / PEDs and being stripped of her belt.

Also, Dana & Co. hinted at the fact they would be scrapping the 145 fw division at the time they stripped Cyborg of her belt - Jan 2012. Ronda dropped down and fought Tate for the bw 135 belt in March.

So for your scenerio.. Anderson would have had to have been busted for PEDs and Dana White would have needed to be talking about scrapping the whole division right before Chael made the drop.

But Ronda did call out Tate in November 2011 before the Cyborg bust and talk of cutting the division so maybe she is ducking...