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08-21-2012, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Pasha K  Yes but he should not even mention it. It is not Hendo's fault either that he was born 20 years earlier than Jones. | This doesn't warrant Hendo a license to continue his prime well past its natural decline though. Just because Hendo was born 20 years before Jones and earned shit money fighting to start, it doesn't give him a free pass that says you've earnt your TRT replacement therapy to fight today in 2012. Life's not fair. Some people develop testosterone deficiencies, some people get cancer, some people get hay fever so bad, it causes them to drop their career.
I'm curious why in all the time Hendo has been on TRT, he hasn't tried to get off it. Didn't Nate Marquardt just recently fight off it, saying he felt fine?
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08-21-2012, 01:09 PM
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Jones needs to worry about not drinking party enhancers and driving into things. On another note, I'm a little over a month into TRT and not at normal levels for my age yet. My Dr. did however make it clear to me that I wouldn't be reaching the levels of a 20 year old.
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08-21-2012, 01:10 PM
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We'll see what Bones has to say when he faces a drop in production after years of weight cuts. Quote:
Originally Posted by Pasha K Isn't it supposed that TRT helps you make normal levels of testosterone for your age? | Yes. Bones, like many people, don't understand that. Quote:
Originally Posted by Unholy Ghost The statement can be taken out of context very easily. | So can the very concept of TRT...as you and bones seem to be illustrating.
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08-21-2012, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NLRepublic That's not the case for guys like Hendo. When he and others were in their 20's, they probably were making $50 and a 6 pack of beer to fight in MMA. You think some guys have shitty pay today, just imagine how little people made back when guys like Hendo were in their 20s | Good point, never thought of that before. Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbyjones Yeah bones, Henderson had the opportunity to be a millionaire back in 1990 when the UFC was huge and was hosting huge events. This guy needs to shut his mouth and fight, he's got a million more opportunities than any of these guys that were fighting in parking lots in Georgia, Nike wasn't calling these guys. The training and headshots take a toll on the body, and these guys still have bills to pay. He's already making excuses for losing to Henderson. | Also some of the crazy Pride 'rules' some of them fought under being much harder on the body. Quote:
Originally Posted by Pasha K Isn't it supposed that TRT helps you make normal levels of testosterone for your age? | Yup, and there is no reason for people to be questioning Hendo's levels as he has never tested high. Quote:
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I'm curious why in all the time Hendo has been on TRT, he hasn't tried to get off it. Didn't Nate Marquardt just recently fight off it, saying he felt fine?
| How do you know Hendo has never tried to "get off" TRT? You dont, you are talking out your ass.
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08-21-2012, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by rivethead We'll see what Bones has to say when he faces a drop in production after years of weight cuts.
Yes. Bones, like many people, don't understand that.
So can the very concept of TRT...as you and bones seem to be illustrating.
rh | Wrong! All TRT users in MMA are obviously scum-sucking cheating roiders.
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08-21-2012, 01:47 PM
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I believe that if you're healthy enough to play a sport, you shouldn't take any performance enhancing drugs or anything or testosterone.
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I think things like TRT, and steroids are things should be for the normal people who really need it and not athletes. I think if you're an athlete you're an athlete, you shouldn't use anything for enhancement.
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Too many times people compare normal people to fighters... It is very different when you are in a physical competition... much less a combat sport.
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08-21-2012, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rampage9712 I agree with this...
Too many times people compare normal people to fighters... It is very different when you are in a physical competition... much less a combat sport. | TRT is to normalize your testosterone levels, not to take them to the highest possible limits a human being can take.
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08-21-2012, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by NLRepublic That's not the case for guys like Hendo. When he and others were in their 20's, they probably were making $50 and a 6 pack of beer to fight in MMA. You think some guys have shitty pay today, just imagine how little people made back when guys like Hendo were in their 20s | Shhh...don't let Jones know you can fight for alcohol.
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08-21-2012, 02:02 PM
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We all know how bad MMA was when it first started out. Even the better fighters werent making a good living... but that should be completely irrelevant to this topic.... Even though Jones brought it up, it shouldnt be in the TRT debate. Quote:
Originally Posted by Sniggles TRT is to normalize your testosterone levels, not to take them to the highest possible limits a human being can take.
Of course you agree with it, though. | In Nevada you can have a 6/1 ratio... far above the normal or average...
It is very spotty... Its not like all TRT fighters are going to be juiced out of their mind, an advantage is an advantage... no matter how small it may be.
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08-21-2012, 02:33 PM
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You guys know that TRT isnt against the rules right? Its actually allowed by the comissions, if you apply for and receive an exemption.
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