Originally Posted by Rise
Or we could say draw the line at if you need medication or get over a short term injury/illness to compete maybe that's ok... but if you need injections of something that is typically considered a PED because you are physically past your prime and can't compete with out then maybe that's not ok.
say that, but that's not what Jones is saying, and not what people who hate the concept of TRT are saying. Jones literally stated
I think if you're an athlete you're an athlete, you shouldn't use anything for enhancement.
...which is a stupid statement, but sadly one that I've heard a lot. It's stupid because a line needs to be drawn somewhere between eating healthy and becoming a cyborg who shoots lasers out of his nostrils, because both qualify as enhancements. So I leave it up to the people who have done the most research on the subject to draw the line, as opposed to people who don't know anything beyond the anecdotal soundbytes they regurgitate on the subject.
Your issue is that you're assuming Henderson is past his prime based on his age. That's an assumption that I can't prove or disprove, but it's an assumption. TRT doesn't give him the T levels of a 20 year old. It gives him the normal levels of a 40 year old. If you're assuming anything else, you should also be assuming that Jones is juicing, because you have exactly the same amount of actual empirical evidence to support both assumptions.
Me, I don't think Jones is juicing, and I don't think Dan is abusing.
So are you suggesting I have a medical degree or work as a trainer before I can have my personal input on the subject ?
No, not at all. I'm saying you're welcome to your input, and welcome to your opinion, as I am welcome to mine. But your input becomes more qualified the more actual research you put into a subject, and at this point, I haven't read any input from anonymous webwarriors that indicates they've put as much time and attention into the matter as the ACs. I do hear a lot of anecdotal bullshit, which is fine. One of my goals as an admin here is to allow people space to express their opinions...even if they're bullshit. That's why there are so many dumbfuck trolls on the forum.
I don't agree that the AC's do everything right, and they could do a lot more with PED's in general. But the research I've done--and I've done quite a bit--indicates that they're doing this right. So I'm OK with it.
You don't have to be...but it's not going to change anything in the real world.