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[sonofsteven]

My thought is what constitutes an official offer by the UFC and what constitutes a subsequent official turn down by the fighter? I mean they can throw names of potential opponents all day , does the fighter lobbying for a different fight get accused of "turning down" any of those? Seems to me the only way a fighter can be accused of turning down a fight officially/legally/wtvr is if there is some sort of contractual offer or demand by his employer. Is it as cut and dry as say an NFL team offering up a payday of a specific contract and the perspective draftee/free agent saying yes or no? Just wondering what "turned down a fight" means and why it is so bad.

[Luc1an]

Originally Posted by W.Silva>C.Norris

its been said before, and Im gonna say it again. Its _REALLY_ hard to be a fan of anderson with the people he surrounds himself with. Anderson's camp has to be the whiniest, most delusional group of people this side of the iron curtain.

the iron curtain has fallen a long time ago brother! trust me i was there! but yes i agree with you, every time Soares speaks, i cringe.

[d-low]

Its a damn shame that Anderson gets most of the heat for shit his idiot manager says/does...even though some will argue that drama falls onto Anderson's shoulders, I'm just so sick of listening to his mouth flap...I think he has a lot to do with why haters dislike Anderson

[Sniggles]

Originally Posted by d-low

Its a damn shame that Anderson gets most of the heat for shit his idiot manager says/does...even though some will argue that drama falls onto Anderson's shoulders, I'm just so sick of listening to his mouth flap...I think he has a lot to do with why haters dislike Anderson

It's not a damn shame. It is his own fault.

Anderson should have dropped this parasite long ago.

[d-low]

Originally Posted by Sniggles

It's not a damn shame. It is his own fault.

Anderson should have dropped this parasite long ago.

Yeah I suppose I agree, but I just find it hard to dislike Anderson so much when all the stupid bullshit is comming from his manager, if I recall correctly I remember a little feud going on between them to where Anderson threatened that he would leave Ed due to him being unprofessional....

Anderson Silva feels manager Ed Soares has been unprofessional : MMATraining.com

[roaddawg]

Originally Posted by YukonJordan

Maybe he hasn't come outright and turned down a fight but he certainly bitches about his potential challengers a lot in the media. When Dana White has to spend 3 hours talking him into a Chael Sonnen match there's some problems there. Especially since Chael represented the greatest PPV rates for Anderson.

Do we really need to rehash his reasons for not wanting to fight Silva all over again or are we playing stupid and pretending it was unprovoked. We know yall love to do that here.

[Mr. Cornute]

Here is the thing, gripe & complain you could say Anderson does about each of his opponents. But every single one of the opponents the UFC has put in front of him, he has beaten & convincingly...no question, no controversy (yes including Chael).
At this point in his career, just as many said about Fedor & claimed he had a right to, Anderson deserves to take fights that intrigue him. He wants fights that will make him the most money which is why the GSP fight is something he has pushed for a while now.
St. Pierre is 5'10, has a 76inch reach & walks around about 194 (source: UFC Quick Quote: Georges St. Pierre could weigh as much as 193 pounds against Jake Shields on fight night - MMAmania.com )
Anderson Silva is 6'2, has a 77.6inch reach & walks around about 210ish (sorry cannot find a direct quote or link but I believe this to be true)
So this debate that he only wants to fight the little guy is a tad disengenuous. Honestly I just think at this stage in his career, at this stage in his life he is more concerned with big money fights & unfortunately Weidman/Belcher/Stann & even Belfort for that matter are not big money fights.
Now Bisping, hate him all you want but a Anderson v Bisping fight could generate some nice numbers...we all would enjoy seeing Bisping obliterated & Anderson would perform that task quite nicely.
But no doubt that G.S.P. v Silva would be one of the biggest MMA PPV's ever, especially if backed with a nice undercard.

[Supe]

Originally Posted by Mr. Cornute

Here is the thing, gripe & complain you could say Anderson does about each of his opponents. But every single one of the opponents the UFC has put in front of him, he has beaten & convincingly...no question, no controversy (yes including Chael).
At this point in his career, just as many said about Fedor & claimed he had a right to, Anderson deserves to take fights that intrigue him. He wants fights that will make him the most money which is why the GSP fight is something he has pushed for a while now.
St. Pierre is 5'10, has a 76inch reach & walks around about 194 (source: UFC Quick Quote: Georges St. Pierre could weigh as much as 193 pounds against Jake Shields on fight night - MMAmania.com )
Anderson Silva is 6'2, has a 77.6inch reach & walks around about 210ish (sorry cannot find a direct quote or link but I believe this to be true)
So this debate that he only wants to fight the little guy is a tad disengenuous. Honestly I just think at this stage in his career, at this stage in his life he is more concerned with big money fights & unfortunately Weidman/Belcher/Stann & even Belfort for that matter are not big money fights.
Now Bisping, hate him all you want but a Anderson v Bisping fight could generate some nice numbers...we all would enjoy seeing Bisping obliterated & Anderson would perform that task quite nicely.
But no doubt that G.S.P. v Silva would be one of the biggest MMA PPV's ever, especially if backed with a nice undercard.

Here's the problem with this swiss cheese logic....Silva owns the MW championship belt. He wants to choose who he wants to fight? Vacate the belt. You don't get to choose who the number 1 contender is when your the champ. Fedor bounced around different orgs and took fights he felt like but he wasn't the champ of an org holding up title defenses while he did it. If Silva wants to fight and keep the strap, he's fights who he's told to fight. If he wants to fight Shogun, GSP or whoever at a catch weight or a MW of his personal choosing...lay that belt down and let Belcher and Weidman fight for it.

[Lesnar_FTW]

Originally Posted by IceCold48

yea because you turn them down for him you dumb dick.

My thoughts exactly.

[disposableassassin]

Originally Posted by Supe

Here's the problem with this swiss cheese logic....Silva owns the MW championship belt. He wants to choose who he wants to fight? Vacate the belt. You don't get to choose who the number 1 contender is when your the champ. Fedor bounced around different orgs and took fights he felt like but he wasn't the champ of an org holding up title defenses while he did it. If Silva wants to fight and keep the strap, he's fights who he's told to fight. If he wants to fight Shogun, GSP or whoever at a catch weight or a MW of his personal choosing...lay that belt down and let Belcher and Weidman fight for it.

This is where I stand. I have no problem with a fighter of his stature choosing fights at this point in his career. I just don't think he should hold up an entire division. Those guys have dreams of fighting for and winning a UFC title. Something that all mixed martial artists only have a limited time to succeed at. Vacate or defend period.