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[MIZjitsZOU]

You know Hendo's old ass is gonna throw shots with bad intentions. Just depends if he can land.

[joeodd2]

Hendo made comments with the sole purpose of demeaning Jones and gaining support from his detractors, otherwise why even mention it? No Hendo does not respect Jones or want to be his freind, he wants to beat him and take the belt. So Jones should also want to beat him and keep his title. It's as simple as that. Trying to figure out who the "real" Jon Jones is, is in and off it'self pointless. He's a guy on TV who fights, that all most of us will ever really know about the guy. You may like him or dislike him, but I have a feeling that he's going to remain successful throughout his career. Even if he does lose one day, I think he would bounce back and win a rematch with who ever beats him. And those who thinks a loss will make him more "humble" I hope you're wrong and remains who he wants to be. Maybe it's just my personality, to go against the majority when it comes to personality issues.

And I won't lie, when I hear White People or any race talking about a black man losing so that he can be "humbled", that does bother me a little bit. I know it's not a skin color thing for most fans, but it does draw images of Jack Johnson and other fighters who people wanted to see lose and "humbles", so that they would "know their place". So many fans are just unaware of that history with Black Athletes, and many just don't care. And that's fine, but to me Jones is a unique talent with a style no one else has. I want to see him succeed and and infuriate his critics. I would root for him no matter what color he was, but I do admit to rooting just a bit harder because he shares that intimate history with so many Black Athletes that have come before him.

[Kemo]

Really?

[optimusjoel]

Originally Posted by CtGreat

The ammount that Jones studies his opponents before the fights is extreme. Im certain that he has seen every single televised Henderson fight atleast 2x by now. He is a fighter who truly takes being a "student" to heart.

Why would he need to watch those videos? Hendo has evolved his game so much more then back then. He may have watched the Wandy fight, cause Dan showed a lot in that one, but all his televised fights? No way in Hell. Just because someone is a fighter doesn't mean they automatically go out and buy all the old pride and ufc dvds.

[Supe]

Hendo called out Jon for being a douche....Jon called out Hendo for being old as fuck. Are either out of line?

[disposableassassin]

Originally Posted by joeodd2

Hendo made comments with the sole purpose of demeaning Jones and gaining support from his detractors, otherwise why even mention it? No Hendo does not respect Jones or want to be his freind, he wants to beat him and take the belt. So Jones should also want to beat him and keep his title. It's as simple as that. Trying to figure out who the "real" Jon Jones is, is in and off it'self pointless. He's a guy on TV who fights, that all most of us will ever really know about the guy. You may like him or dislike him, but I have a feeling that he's going to remain successful throughout his career. Even if he does lose one day, I think he would bounce back and win a rematch with who ever beats him. And those who thinks a loss will make him more "humble" I hope you're wrong and remains who he wants to be. Maybe it's just my personality, to go against the majority when it comes to personality issues.

And I won't lie, when I hear White People or any race talking about a black man losing so that he can be "humbled", that does bother me a little bit. I know it's not a skin color thing for most fans, but it does draw images of Jack Johnson and other fighters who people wanted to see lose and "humbles", so that they would "know their place". So many fans are just unaware of that history with Black Athletes, and many just don't care. And that's fine, but to me Jones is a unique talent with a style no one else has. I want to see him succeed and and infuriate his critics. I would root for him no matter what color he was, but I do admit to rooting just a bit harder because he shares that intimate history with so many Black Athletes that have come before him.

You're insane. What about bisping. He has already been ktfo and we all still want to see him humbled again and again. People who look for racism when there is none to be found. Those are the people who help keep those sentiments alive.

Just so you know where I stand. I attended UFC 145 desperately hoping Rashad Evans (a black fighter *gasp*) would knock jones out. I wanted rashad to get his retribution and humble that kid. I proudly wear my UFC 145 shirt anywhere I go. It has two black fighters on it and guess what I'm white. I know you never said all of jones' haters were racist but assuming that even most people would want to see him lose because of the color of his skin is baseless and ignorant.

[rspier]

Originally Posted by joeodd2

Hendo made comments with the sole purpose of demeaning Jones and gaining support from his detractors, otherwise why even mention it? No Hendo does not respect Jones or want to be his freind, he wants to beat him and take the belt. So Jones should also want to beat him and keep his title. It's as simple as that. Trying to figure out who the "real" Jon Jones is, is in and off it'self pointless. He's a guy on TV who fights, that all most of us will ever really know about the guy. You may like him or dislike him, but I have a feeling that he's going to remain successful throughout his career. Even if he does lose one day, I think he would bounce back and win a rematch with who ever beats him. And those who thinks a loss will make him more "humble" I hope you're wrong and remains who he wants to be. Maybe it's just my personality, to go against the majority when it comes to personality issues.

And I won't lie, when I hear White People or any race talking about a black man losing so that he can be "humbled", that does bother me a little bit. I know it's not a skin color thing for most fans, but it does draw images of Jack Johnson and other fighters who people wanted to see lose and "humbles", so that they would "know their place". So many fans are just unaware of that history with Black Athletes, and many just don't care. And that's fine, but to me Jones is a unique talent with a style no one else has. I want to see him succeed and and infuriate his critics. I would root for him no matter what color he was, but I do admit to rooting just a bit harder because he shares that intimate history with so many Black Athletes that have come before him.

If I recall Henderson was asked about it, and he simply answered the question. It's not that big a deal really, he just talks a lot lately in a way tht I think hurts his image... On top of the DUI.

I for one have never even considered Jon jones race. He's not a black athlete to me, he's just an athlete...

[disposableassassin]

Originally Posted by rspier

I for one have never even considered Jon jones race. He's not a black athlete to me, he's just an athlete...

Somebody gets it! I don't have black friends or Hispanic friends or Asian friends or even white friends. I just have friends. Race plays no part in it. I don't see people for the color of their skin or the accent they may speak in. I see them for what kind of human being they are. Jones seems like he may be a good person that has had too much success far too quickly. That coupled with his athletic prowess has created a person with an overblown ego.

[Ramma]

Originally Posted by joeodd2

And I won't lie, when I hear White People or any race talking about a black man losing so that he can be "humbled", that does bother me a little bit. I know it's not a skin color thing for most fans, but it does draw images of Jack Johnson and other fighters who people wanted to see lose and "humbles", so that they would "know their place". So many fans are just unaware of that history with Black Athletes, and many just don't care. And that's fine, but to me Jones is a unique talent with a style no one else has. I want to see him succeed and and infuriate his critics. I would root for him no matter what color he was, but I do admit to rooting just a bit harder because he shares that intimate history with so many Black Athletes that have come before him.

There's only one person here throwing around "white" and "black" and it's "you". Why don't you think about that next time before you speak.

You know what bothers me a bit? When someone, not just "white people" or "black people" or "spanish people", bring up race when it's a non-issue, and cover it up with little sentences between the race related sentences like he or she is not really trying to pull the race card. Maybe I should make an issue out of the fact that you cheer harder for a specific race of people over any other race. Me? I cheer for personalities and who I enjoy as a fighter.

So please, don't throw out the race card. Save it. Just save it. Keep it to yourself, you're stirring the pot. This is your warning. We Are All One. The End.

[Cat--Smasher]

Originally Posted by Ramma

There's only one person here throwing around "white" and "black" and it's "you". Why don't you think about that next time before you speak.

You know what bothers me a bit? When someone, not just "white people" or "black people" or "spanish people", bring up race when it's a non-issue, and cover it up with little sentences between the race related sentences like he or she is not really trying to pull the race card. Maybe I should make an issue out of the fact that you cheer harder for a specific race of people over any other race. Me? I cheer for personalities and who I enjoy as a fighter.

So please, don't throw out the race card. Save it. Just save it. Keep it to yourself, you're stirring the pot. This is your warning. We Are All One. The End.

Ramma dropping the Genki Sudo!