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[roaddawg]

Originally Posted by MetallicKnight3X

no with what I remember theres this guy with a big mouth and a bald head that said these super fights would not happen unless these fighters cleared their divisions. And how is the time now? GSP is coming off a freaking knee surgery. He's not prime for a fight like that right at this moment anyways. He needs to be able to explode into take downs and he hasn't even tested it. So I say a fight or two then yea go ahead with it.

Dana has already said Silva isn't fighting until early 2013. Meanwhile GSP has a fight this year against Condit. If he wins and only if he wins will he be freed up like Silva so both can fight eachother.

Noone has the time to wait for them to clear out their divisions (plus its too risky and both fighters seem to be injured proned especially Silva).

This is the best time to make that super fight happen or risk it never happening in 2013 or the subsequent years to follow. Take in mind both divisions will always have number 1 contenders so that excuse is getting played out.

[goodtimes]

GSP/Silva is the closes it has ever been to happening... And all you guys do is bitch? Whining that Diaz won't get a shot, even though he just lost and is suspended. Hendricks is going to challenge GSP? Look at his fight with Kos, he's a mirror image of the guy, no chance in hell he beats even an 80% GSP. He has the fight with Condit coming up, but Condit can't defend the takedown so he's fucked. Kampmann, he got tooled on by Thiago Alves before pulling a sub out of nowhere. GSP is much faster and has a much bigger reach then Alves, and he's twice the grappler. None of these guys provide exciting challenges.

People are banking on Weidman outgrappling Silva, but he really hasn't even looked that great outside of that one fight with Munoz, against the worst Munoz we've ever seen. Outside of Weidman, who nobody cared about until his highlight reel KO of Munoz, who is there? Bisping? I think a fight with Bisping can make some money, but he doesn't really have a chance of winning.

GSP/Silva is a huge money fight, and I guarantee if it gets announced every one of you will watch it and countdown the days till it arrives.

[VimyRidge]

Originally Posted by goodtimes

GSP/Silva is the closes it has ever been to happening... And all you guys do is bitch? Whining that Diaz won't get a shot, even though he just lost and is suspended. Hendricks is going to challenge GSP? Look at his fight with Kos, he's a mirror image of the guy, no chance in hell he beats even an 80% GSP. He has the fight with Condit coming up, but Condit can't defend the takedown so he's fucked. Kampmann, he got tooled on by Thiago Alves before pulling a sub out of nowhere. GSP is much faster and has a much bigger reach then Alves, and he's twice the grappler. None of these guys provide exciting challenges.

People are banking on Weidman outgrappling Silva, but he really hasn't even looked that great outside of that one fight with Munoz, against the worst Munoz we've ever seen. Outside of Weidman, who nobody cared about until his highlight reel KO of Munoz, who is there? Bisping? I think a fight with Bisping can make some money, but he doesn't really have a chance of winning.

GSP/Silva is a huge money fight, and I guarantee if it gets announced every one of you will watch it and countdown the days till it arrives.

Big deal Diaz lost to Condit, stylistically, Diaz vs GSP would be very interesting.

Can someone start a poll

Jones vs Silva
GSP vs Silva


I would way rather see Jones versusu Silva. Much closer in size/weight and Silva has fought in the LHW dummying a former champion.

I would argue the odds for Silva-Jones would be much closer than Silva-GSP.

[CtGreat]

Originally Posted by VimyRidge

Big deal Diaz lost to Condit, stylistically, Diaz vs GSP would be very interesting.

Can someone start a poll

Jones vs Silva
GSP vs Silva


I would way rather see Jones versusu Silva. Much closer in size/weight and Silva has fought in the LHW dummying a former champion.

I would argue the odds for Silva-Jones would be much closer than Silva-GSP.

they really aren't though. Silva and GSP have most identical reach (77,76). Silva has 4 inches of hight on him, but jones has almost 9 inches reach on Silva. The size discrepancies between Silva and Gsp are not bigger than Silva vs Jones.

Infact, GSP had a 6 inch reach advantage over BJ Penn and a 1 inch height advantage over a natural lightweight.

I would love to see GSP vs Silva.

[VimyRidge]

Originally Posted by CtGreat

they really aren't though. Silva and GSP have most identical reach (77,76). Silva has 4 inches of hight on him, but jones has almost 9 inches reach on Silva. The size discrepancies between Silva and Gsp are not bigger than Silva vs Jones.

Infact, GSP had a 6 inch reach advantage over BJ Penn and a 1 inch height advantage over a natural lightweight.

I would love to see GSP vs Silva.

Doesn't Silva walk around like 8 lbs less than Jones and GSP is 20 lbs less than Silva?

(ignoring the obvious counter arguement ....) Do you think anyone that GSP has beat would make it out the first round with Silva? On Silva's worst day, Matt Sera would get KOd in the first minute. Silva has a good chance of beating everyone that Jones has fought: Rashad, Shogun, Machida....

If GSP-Silva happends, I will take 1:1 odds on Silva if there are any takers.

[grambino]

Originally Posted by CtGreat

they really aren't though. Silva and GSP have most identical reach (77,76). Silva has 4 inches of hight on him, but jones has almost 9 inches reach on Silva. The size discrepancies between Silva and Gsp are not bigger than Silva vs Jones.

Infact, GSP had a 6 inch reach advantage over BJ Penn and a 1 inch height advantage over a natural lightweight.

I would love to see GSP vs Silva.

Don't you feel the UFC needs to be above novelty at this point?

[Cat--Smasher]

Originally Posted by CtGreat

they really aren't though. Silva and GSP have most identical reach (77,76). Silva has 4 inches of hight on him, but jones has almost 9 inches reach on Silva. The size discrepancies between Silva and Gsp are not bigger than Silva vs Jones.

Infact, GSP had a 6 inch reach advantage over BJ Penn and a 1 inch height advantage over a natural lightweight.

I would love to see GSP vs Silva.

I am not sure where you got the almost 9 inch reach advantage? (According to Wiki) Jones reach is 84.5, Anderson's reach is 77.6. 84.5 - 77.6 = 6.9.

Jones has a 6.9 inch reach and 2 inch height advantage over Anderson Silva.

I understand you are illustrating the size differences between Silva GSP and Jones Silva but I dont think Jones reach over Silva should even factor into the discussion.

Jones has had a significant reach advantage over ALL of his opponents. Of the last 10 UFC fights Jones has fought, his opponents reach was on average 75.6 inches. Anderson Silva's reach is 77.6. Anderson's reach is above average for Jones last 10 opponents.

That average is skewed a bit to from Bonnar (80) and Vera (78) who were the only 2 fights (of his last 10) in which his opponent had a longer reach than Silva.

[VimyRidge]

For all the people who seem positive on this fight, can you honestly tell me that you would rather see GSP versus Silva than Silva-Jones?

...roaddawg, goodtimes, ctgreat...

[CtGreat]

Originally Posted by grambino

Don't you feel the UFC needs to be above novelty at this point?

No, novelty generates massive buys/interest amongst the casuals. There's no reason you can't have legitimacy with the occasional novelty.

Originally Posted by Cat--Smasher

I am not sure where you got the almost 9 inch reach advantage? (According to Wiki) Jones reach is 84.5, Anderson's reach is 77.6. 84.5 - 77.6 = 6.9.

Jones has a 6.9 inch reach and 2 inch height advantage over Anderson Silva.

I understand you are illustrating the size differences between Silva GSP and Jones Silva but I dont think Jones reach over Silva should even factor into the discussion.

Jones has had a significant reach advantage over ALL of his opponents. Of the last 10 UFC fights Jones has fought, his opponents reach was on average 75.6 inches. Anderson Silva's reach is 77.6. Anderson's reach is above average for Jones last 10 opponents.

That average is skewed a bit to from Bonnar (80) and Vera (78) who were the only 2 fights (of his last 10) in which his opponent had a longer reach than Silva.

Yea I read that wrong. Either way, the size difference isn't any bigger between silva vs GSP.

Vimmy, I would rather see GSP vs Silva because 1. I've wanted to see it for 5 years now. 2. Silva and Jones are my favorite fighters of all time and I couldn't sit through that fight comfortably knowing that one of them has to loose. I want Silva to go out undefeated in the UFC and I want Jones to go undefeated. 3. GSP is the bigger name

[Cat--Smasher]

Spider: 'Estou numa área de conforto. Posso me dar ao luxo de dizer não' | sportv.com

Anderson Silva: "Not against fighting Weidman, but for now my goal is to fight GSP"

Translated from Portuguese...

Spider: 'I'm in a comfort zone. I can afford to say no '

Anderson Silva has received much criticism for refusing to face the American Chris Weidman, a leading candidate today to compete in the middleweight belt. During the launch of the second edition of his biography "The story of a champion in the ring and in life", in Sao Paulo, the Brazilian was justified in saying that it is a position that gives him the right to deny any fight and confirmed that only around in 2013. For him, Weidman still need to do more fighting and would be much more interesting to look at the Canadian Georges St-Pierre, the welterweight champion.

"Yes I got (the invitation to address Weidman), but I have other projects for the coming months and do not intend to fight back now. There is lack of humility on my part. I'm in a comfort zone, I can afford to not speak. The Weidman is a boy, has his talent and is building a story in the UFC. At no point did I put myself against the possibility of fighting him. But I think a fight against Georges St-Pierre would be much better, because he is a great champion and the fight would have much more content to people. The Weidman has a long career ahead of him still. I have my story, and would be much more advantageous for my fans and for fans of GSP if we we faced." - told SPORTV.COM .