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08-22-2012, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TBEAR Chris is a threat to Anderson and everyone else at MW...the dude is for real. He will fight before too long IMO, ethier Anderson or someone else | You think everyone Silva fights is the next biggest threat...You probably had Forest winning.
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08-22-2012, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Fedorlei Gomipierre My ONLY issue with Weidman not taking the fight with Vitor, is that HAD he taken the fight and won, I don't see any possible argument that Anderson could've made to get out of fighting Weidman on the spot. As of right now, Anderson can question Weidman's name value, mainstream recognition, PPV drawing power and resume(Munoz and Maia), while I think a win over Vitor shuts up all of those issues. | I agree entirely. With him turning down a fight with another guy at the top of the division, there are going to be critics saying that he's taking the easy path to the title shot. I can only imagine what Bisping is going to have to say about this. Maybe he was just being smart because I don't think that he matches up all that well with Vitor.
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08-22-2012, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AnchorPunch Munoz was consistently ranked 3rd or 4th behind Sonnen and Silva. | Munoz being ranked 3rd or 4th really shows what I have felt for a long time. Rankings mean absolutely nothing. I do not see what he did to accomplish such a high ranking. Who did he beat? Maia? Leben? CB Dollaway? So what. Mid-carders all day long. Vitor's win over Franklin (sure it was at catchweight) was a bigger accomplishment than Munoz's entire mma career.
I think these days, "hype" plays in to a lot of rankings. Here today, gone today.
I'm not trying to downplay Weidman, I just think he should fight at least once more before getting a shot at Anderson. I do think Chris is a threat to anyone, but he isn't fighting just any champ. Anderson is on another level. He is a living legend and p4p best in the world. Regular contenders no longer are valid.
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08-22-2012, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Fe1 I agree entirely. With him turning down a fight with another guy at the top of the division, there are going to be critics saying that he's taking the easy path to the title shot. I can only imagine what Bisping is going to have to say about this. Maybe he was just being smart because I don't think that he matches up all that well with Vitor. | You definately hit the nail on the head here.
Let's just say for a moment, that Bisping beats Stann and the GSP/Silva bout isn't the next match-up for Anderson(which I think may happen if Dana wants to do his Super Bowl in early July as he's said many times)....Given Bisping's massive name value and mainstream recognition, he seems like a logical next matchup if only because it will be viewed as a "big money" fight. However I think that a win over Vitor would've been the perfect counter-argument for Weidman for who "gets next" and by not taking the major fight in Vitor, it unfortunately denies Chris the exposure and big time cred needed when his name is up there with somebody like Bisping, who is far more well-known, even if he's not as worthy of the shot.
IMO, a potential win over Vitor, coupled with the wins over Maia and Munoz would've rammed the #1 contendership down Dana and Anderson's throats and I don't think anybody could argue in the least. Without that major feather, regardless of if he deserves the shot, his name and mainstream marquee value may not be enough to get him the nod....
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08-22-2012, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Fedorlei Gomipierre My ONLY issue with Weidman not taking the fight with Vitor, is that HAD he taken the fight and won, I don't see any possible argument that Anderson could've made to get out of fighting Weidman on the spot. As of right now, Anderson can question Weidman's name value, mainstream recognition, PPV drawing power and resume(Munoz and Maia), while I think a win over Vitor shuts up all of those issues. | well u got to it before i did.
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08-22-2012, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by roaddawg You think everyone Silva fights is the next biggest threat...You probably had Forest winning. | Hold the fuck up there killer. that shit is not even close to true you fuckin troll.
I am a Anderson fan. I think Anderson is the GOAT. I also think you are fuckin worthless to this site. Your MMA knowledge is = to the fat fuck in walmart wearing a rashguard and saying "I saw that fucker get hit hard".
Face it RD, you drive the MMA shortbus!
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08-22-2012, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TBEAR Hold the fuck up there killer. that shit is not even close to true you fuckin troll.
I am a Anderson fan. I think Anderson is the GOAT. I also think you are fuckin worthless to this site. Your MMA knowledge is = to the fat fuck in walmart wearing a rashguard and saying "I saw that fucker get hit hard".
Face it RD, you drive the MMA shortbus! |
Dont make TBear angry. You will not like him when he is angry.
You are trolling RD. TBear speaks the truth about Wiedman being a threat to the entire MW div. and you gotta try to put words in his mouth he clearly was not saying.
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08-22-2012, 03:25 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if Anderson's management is just waiting for Chris to sign a fight to announce when he will fight next. It would be really interesting to know what kind of back and forth goes on with the UFC and their fighters.
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08-22-2012, 06:40 PM
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Dont make TBear angry. You will not like him when he is angry. | I really don't give a fuck if Tbear is mad. Quote:
Originally Posted by Cat--Smasher You are trolling RD. TBear speaks the truth about Wiedman being a threat to the entire MW div. and you gotta try to put words in his mouth he clearly was not saying. | Will you too hop off the Wiedman hype train after he fights Silva?
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08-22-2012, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by roaddawg I really don't give a fuck if Tbear is mad.
Will you too hop off the Wiedman hype train after he fights Silva? | You dont give a fuck if TBear is mad yet he chews you a new asshole has the whole forum laughing I am sure and you respond to a post by Cat with this and not the guy who just made you out to be the Douche you are?
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