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[Sniggles]

How has Ellenberger not proven himself in your eyes to be an entertaining fighter capable of putting forth an amazing performance?

[TreK]

I think it's Jay that people feel isn't a main or co-main fighter because he's just returning to the UFC.

I wanted to see Dennis Siver and Yagin, Hallman and Tavares too... there were plenty of interesting fights that I'd want to see, even without Hendo and Jones.

[AnchorPunch]

Because the co-main didn't have named fighters and all co-main events should have them. People like Griffin, Ortiz, and Hammill are clearly more entertaining.

Though in all seriousness, I think there's an expectation that the co-main has deep implications for the division (e.g. number one contender or close status). That's probably becoming less true as the number of cards increases, but this fight has very little in the way of short term implications.

[disposableassassin]

Wasn't jay a replacement for kos? That was a very solid co main. The UFC has a strong roster. Injuries have plagued cards. There has been a ripple effect due to this.

[Fedorlei Gomipierre]

I think the replacement of Koscheck with Hieron is what people take most issue with. Kos/Ellenberger could've been a solid anchor with Dana adding another last minute fight of relevance, . For example, BJ was originally on the card and there are a couple other names who they could've worked some magic with to book a savior main card. Say Siyar/Penn or something of that caliber, just to add another name. Fuck, I betcha Tim Sylvia would've jumped at this card to take on anybody, which could've added a little meat to it, but again, we're talking last minute audibles here...

Couple that with both UFC 152 main events in Benavidez/MightyMouse and Bisping/Stann involving fighters who have to cut major weight and really can't bump up to this card on short-notice, I think there were just too little alternatives....

I kept thinking that they'd get Franklin to fly in to save the day, but given the war he just had with Wand(on short notice at that), even he couldn't save the card.

[disposableassassin]

Before injuries this card was solid. Damn you Dana white for having a card be weakened due to injuries!!!

[rivethead]

It's a weak co-main for a PPV.

It's more than strong enough to attract a good rating on cable, but not for people to actually buy.

I'm a huge Hieron fan, and I really like Ellenberger; and was eager to see if Siver continues to impress at 145, and I was looking forward to see how Urushitani rebounded from the loss...but I just can't see people paying for the card. It was a great cable card. It would have been awesome. It was a very soft PPV, with the main event selling it.

I mean, look at it this way...if it was put out by SF or Affliction [back in the day] people would have ragged on it as not comparable to a "real UFC" card.

rh

[Y2JUBAE]

Because UFC has put on so many stacked cards and we are all f/n spoiled.

[opiumdeth]

I was most excited for the main event but as a fan i enjoy watching every fight they put on live i.e. prelims. Modern UFC fans (not saying all are like this) only want to see the fighter people talk about because they simply don't understand the sport. These same fans boo when it gets to the ground or stale mates happen in the clinch etc. Its really to bad they had to cancel because we as fans could have missed a fight of the year you never know whats going to happen in a MMA bout.

[Sniggles]

Originally Posted by AnchorPunch

Because the co-main didn't have named fighters and all co-main events should have them. People like Griffin, Ortiz, and Hammill are clearly more entertaining.

Though in all seriousness, I think there's an expectation that the co-main has deep implications for the division (e.g. number one contender or close status). That's probably becoming less true as the number of cards increases, but this fight has very little in the way of short term implications.

Hamill more entertaining than Ellenberger....



I don't think so.

Originally Posted by rivethead

I mean, look at it this way...if it was put out by SF or Affliction [back in the day] people would have ragged on it as not comparable to a "real UFC" card.

rh

True that Bones would have been carrying the card but as a champion and main event fighter, it was his obligation to carry the card that he was signed on to. With Bones, 151 was worth buying.