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*Disclaimer* I am not trying to bash anyone here and I'm not looking for an argument. I am merely looking at the facts and sharing my personal opinion. If you disagree with me, please feel free to say so. I'm interested to hear what you all have to say on the subject. Now that that's out of the way...

In my opinion, Michael Bisping is the most overrated fighter ever. He has been ranked in the top ten MWs for a long time now. Some people have him in the top five. The thing I find funny about that though, is that he has arguably never beaten another top ten fighter. He has a pro MMA record of 22-4 with none of those 22 wins being over a top ten opponent. The only 4 high ranked fighters that he has faced are the ones that he has lost to. This is why I have a hard time understanding why he always makes it into the top ten.

I'm curious though, what do you think? Fitch? Lesnar? Bisping? Who do you find is the most overrated fighter ever?

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Fitch may be considered boring, but he is not overrated. Bisping is a good choice, but it seems like he is also underrated, like he is a can, by a lot of people too. I cant remember to well, but i think i recall frank shamrock being pretty overrated while he was in strike force, before he lost to cung le. Not too many names are coming to mind right now.

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Ken Shamrock ''The World's Most Dangerous Man''

[Fe1]

I don't see anyway that you can see Bisping as underrated. As far as Frank Shamrock goes, please, for the love of god do not judge him from his time in Strikeforce. I don't find that he was overrated at the point but he certainly was past his prime. Back in the day, he was an absolute machine. He earned the nickname "The Legend"

Ken Shamrock ''The World's Most Dangerous Man''

I don't think he was overrated. He was a really tallented fighter that fought too fas past his prime. No one really rated him highly after 2002 lol

[marko]

Gonna get flamed for this but I'm throwing Royce Gracie in as most overrated fighter ever. Go back and watch the early UFC's, the competition as most organising it have admitted in interviews was set up as a showcase for Brazilian jiu Jitsu and Royce was the man hand picked time win it. This was the reason Big John McCarthy wad not allowed to enter as he had BJJ training and with his size and knowledge would be seen as a threat to Royce winning the tournament. He won most of his fights in the early tournaments not by actualy submissions as we know them know but by strangling his opponents by wrapping his gi round their necks. He has always had very poor skills in the other areas of fighting (his stand-up). His fight against Matt Hughes (I thought he was past it at this point) only goes to show that he never actually attained the status of "Mixed Martial Artist" and was always really a BJJ pioneer.

Flame away but for the most part many nowadays will have only heard the "mystique" of Royce Gracie and never actually seen the early UFC's.

On the above comments regarding Bisping, I actually think he's one of the most under estimated fighters in the UFC but is his own worst enemy by not planting his feet when he strikes meaning he has less power when he lands. I think this comes from his point kickboxing background.

[Flynnja]

Originally Posted by marko

Gonna get flamed for this but I'm throwing Royce Gracie in as most overrated fighter ever. Go back and watch the early UFC's, the competition as most organising it have admitted in interviews was set up as a showcase for Brazilian jiu Jitsu and Royce was the msn hand picked time win it. This was the reason Big John McCarthy wad nit allowed to enter as he had BJJ training and with his size and knowledge would be seen as a threat to Royce winning the tournament. He won mist of his fights in the early tournaments nit by actual submissions as we know them know but by strangling his opponents by wrapping husband gi round their necks. He has always had very poor skills in the other areas if fighting (his stand-up). His fight against Matt Hughes (I thought he was past it st this point) only goes to show that he never actually attained the status of "Mixed Martial Artist" and was always really a BJJ pioneer.

Flame away but for the most part many nowadays will have only heard the "mystique" of Royce Gracie and never actually seen the early UFC's.

On the above comments regarding Bisping, I actually think he's one of the most under estimated fighters in the UFC but is his own worst enemy by not planting his feet when he strikes meaning he has less power when he lands. I think this comes from his point kickboxing background.

Dude.... I never remembered Royce wrapping his husband around anything...

[marko]

Originally Posted by Flynnja

Dude.... I never remembered Royce wrapping his husband around anything...

Predictive text, touch screen smart phones and large fingers don't mix well ! Gonna edit it ! :-)

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Brock lesnar... maybe not the most over rated fighter but he wasn't too far off.

[1inthechamber]

Originally Posted by marko

Gonna get flamed for this but I'm throwing Royce Gracie in as most overrated fighter ever. Go back and watch the early UFC's, the competition as most organising it have admitted in interviews was set up as a showcase for Brazilian jiu Jitsu and Royce was the man hand picked time win it. This was the reason Big John McCarthy wad not allowed to enter as he had BJJ training and with his size and knowledge would be seen as a threat to Royce winning the tournament. He won most of his fights in the early tournaments not by actualy submissions as we know them know but by strangling his opponents by wrapping his gi round their necks. He has always had very poor skills in the other areas of fighting (his stand-up). His fight against Matt Hughes (I thought he was past it at this point) only goes to show that he never actually attained the status of "Mixed Martial Artist" and was always really a BJJ pioneer.

Flame away but for the most part many nowadays will have only heard the "mystique" of Royce Gracie and never actually seen the early UFC's.

On the above comments regarding Bisping, I actually think he's one of the most under estimated fighters in the UFC but is his own worst enemy by not planting his feet when he strikes meaning he has less power when he lands. I think this comes from his point kickboxing background.

Agreed, I also thought Royce was overrated as he was fighting mostly untrained opponents with no skills.

Bisping on the other hand is very talented, people blinded by their hate towards the guy underrate the hell outta him. I also think he's a jackass but a very talented jackass at that.

[disposableassassin]

As far as current fighters go I have always felt Maia was very overrated. It's all subjective though. Guys like bisping are overrated by some and underrated by others. It seems more a matter of what side of the fence you are on.

Best way to tell where someone truly sits is to look at their record objectively. Who they won against and how they won. Who they lost against and how they lost. Ect.