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[Uvall]

Originally Posted by MMA4EVERRR

Part of what DHK is saying is right, however, Korean Zombie has been doing very well in the UFC, and that maybe because of his fighting style.

KZ has won a few FOTN awards with his battles with Garcia and Poirer and his KOTN against Hominick. He has developed a following in America with the American crowd. I'm sure he has grabbed attention of sponsers in the process.

DHK and other korean fighters could do better for themselves too if they can develop a entertaining fighting style while still winning fights. DHK has been in a few exciting fights but for the most part, he usually wins taking his opponent down and holding onto them. That wont win u fans, sponsers, or higher payscale.

Wasn't he talking about lesser known and newer Asian fighters coming up? I took from this that he was saying, "Yeah a couple of us are doing well now that we are known and have had some bigger fights. BUT the costs for us to fly over early and get a camp going are so heavy that any young up and coming fighter(lesser known) will be losing money to hopefully gain money in the future, if he can possibly start fighting in bigger fights."

In other words, everyone has it hard in the beginning, but the Asians have it harder because they have to deal with higher costs. I don't necessarily think he was talking of just himself not making money.

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

Haha what a joke.

Whine, whine, whine, fighter pay, whine, cost, money, whine.

Well I'm doing fine financially.

Whine, whine, whine, fighter pay, whine, cost, money, whine.

As I said above, I think he was more so trying to refer to up and comers and not as much himself.


To combat this maybe UFC just needs to start putting on fights in Korea? Get that Korean TUF reality show kicking or some shit. I'm sure it'll happen like that sooner or later.

[Sniggles]

Originally Posted by Uvall

As I said above, I think he was more so trying to refer to up and comers and not as much himself.


To combat this maybe UFC just needs to start putting on fights in Korea? Get that Korean TUF reality show kicking or some shit. I'm sure it'll happen like that sooner or later.

Because an organization should have to cater to a non-main event fighter.

If this guy wants an easier time working in the States, perhaps he should move to the States then retire in Korea. Difficult problem solved without looking like a twat.

[joeodd2]

MMA fans jumping to conclusions and not fulling comprehending the fighter's actual words? Say it ain't so.....



The man is talking about Asian fighters who dream of competing in the UFC, and how much harder physically and financially it is for them to work for the UFC exclusively and brake even much less make a good living. He makes valid and practical points without whining or downing the UFC. Now he does say that fighter pay is "stingy" which isn't untrue. I think the UFC could afford to boost the pay of fighters who have extra expenses to get here or modify their travel policies to ensure that the fighters can be properly acclimated to the time zone differences. Doesn't seem that unreasonable to ask for that, but then again we are talking about an organization headed by.....




Nice knowing ya Mr. Kim.....

[1inthechamber]

I cant stand this fucking guy ever since he appealed a loss for his opponent coming up THC positive. I loved when condit put his ass to sleep.

[joeodd2]

Wow you're holding that against the guy? A banned substance is a banned substance, whether or not it's relevant in a fighter's performance doesn't matter. Hell I would have told my fighter to do the same thing or done so myself. Losses on your record can lead to a pink slip in the UFC or anywhere for that matter. If you can find a loophole to get it erased, use it. That's a pretty petty reason to dislike someone.

[deeznizzies]

stun gun is merely speaking his mind.. i don't know why some of you idiots want to misconstrue that for whining. is that how pessimistic and negative we all are now? someone speaks their mind and is trying to look out for the next generation of fighters and he's a whiny bitch? the dude fights the best fighters in the world in a cage for Christ's sake.. he's a former Korean marine and a hell of a fighter.. i don't take him as the whiny type. With all that said, i'm not a huge fan of his, but i do believe he has a valid argument.

if you are done wrong at your job by your employers and you have a legitimate reason to voice a concern, are you automatically a "cry baby"? some of you have some fucked up logic.

however, stun gun.. dana is gonna get you. and to me, that's pretty sad.

airline and hotel fees for the fighter (and up to 3 trainers) from preliminary guys all the way to the main event should be paid for by the UFC (in my opinion). of course i don't see a prelim guy having the presidential suite up in the bellagio, more like the days inn. i think as your popularity and visibility increases so should some of your perks (coach to first class, better hotel accommodations, rental cars, more trainers able to accompany you, etc).

the money has got to start trickling down more...

[CapCee]

I hope he doesn't get put in the doghouse for this. I can never understand how sports fans can side with owners/organizations over the players/fighters that are actually putting their bodies and well being in jeopardy for OUR entertainment.

[The8thPlague]

So from what I understand in that interview is:
Asian fighters are gonna start getting their shit together and putting on unbelievably entertaining fights, so the U.S. fans and Sponsors start to pay attention to them.
If that's NOT what I read then What The Fuck are you Bitching About!???!

[Uvall]

Originally Posted by Sniggles

Because an organization should have to cater to a non-main event fighter.

If this guy wants an easier time working in the States, perhaps he should move to the States then retire in Korea. Difficult problem solved without looking like a twat.

I didn't ask the question as much as I meant to point out that, what I said may be an answer of sorts. I mean we do this in Europe and Brazil. So I don't think it's so far fetched to see them put on shows there eventually as well. Where the Asian fighters would get a chance to be showcased without all the costs behind it, maybe leading to better pay and the opportunity to travel later, for some. And yeah you're right he could move to the US. But not everyone over there trying to fight or who may get drafted to fight for the UFC can actually afford to do as you've suggested. I'm sure some of them have families they can't just up and leave for any lengthy amount of time as well. And I think this is part of the point he was trying to make which some of you guys seem to look past or not even acknowledge. He isn't just talking about himself. He's talking about up and comers who don't have much to begin with and the pay they are receiving along with the costs behind coming over to the US equaling out to be very little profit or in some cases a debt.

[Spoon]

I have a friend who is originally from Korea, as is his wife. They go back to Korea for vacation about once a year or 2 (I think he's there right now actually). According to him, it takes over a week to get re-adjusted to the time changes. It is 13 hours ahead of EST, or 16 hours ahead of PST; literally a night and day difference.

Honestly, I don't see Kim complaining; more along the lines of just being real. $4,000-$6,000 for a low card fighter is insanely low, for a UFC fighter. For a foreign fighter, assuming that Kim & his manager's claims are correct, there's really nothing left in a fighter's pocket. At that point, they've got an income of a regional fighter, or even just a high level amateur fighter. Not exactly something you can support yourself on, when you're only fighting 2-3 times a year, if you're lucky.