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09-05-2012, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by grambino I'm excited to see GSP move up, not excited at all about what Silva is doing. GSP is the only guy testing himself here. He should start with a 5 - 10 guy if he's serious about the move. Nothing super about this fight. Of course Silva wants GSP whether he wins or not. Silva should be fighting Wiedman. Waiting for this "super fight" is just another way for Silva to avoid his obligation as a champion. This may not cancel a card, but it's not much different that Jones. Wiedman actually earned the shot and he's being fucked over.
If Silva vacated 185 I don't believe GSP could move up and be the champion there right away. As skilled as he is, I believe size and strength are two of his greatest assets and he'd lose those. 185 is loaded with huge guys and GSP isn't. The UFC talks about being this global entity, then they should be above gimmicks at this point.
My personal thought are that the people who truly believe in their heart that this fight should happen can play it out everyday in their mom's basement using their action figures. | The whole point behind the catch weight is that GSP does NOT move to 185. GSP isn't moving up to the LHW division to fight Anderson.
Anderson has been asking for the fight that EVERYONE has wanted to see for a couple years now, and he still gets bashed! Haha...it's ridiculous! Anderson could fight the LW champ, WW champ, LHW champ, and HW champ in 4 consecutive months and he would still catch crap about something.
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09-05-2012, 09:17 AM
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Even if they were the same size, I see Silva has always having the advantage. Beyond his beautiful striking, improving TDD, and solid JJ, he has a good chin. GSP hasn't been finishing, wouldn't be able to finish Silva and Silva is always one good attack away from finishing his opponent. In a five round fight, it would just be a matter of time.
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09-05-2012, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Badluck33 Truth is that GSP is a big WW. Probably walks around at 195. He'd probably wanna put on more muscle and get to 205+ and then drop down to 185. | He actually enters the octagon at well over 190, around 195-ish if I recall. He's absolutely massive for WW and extremely dense, just doesn't get fat and balloon in the off season.
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09-05-2012, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by grambino I'm excited to see GSP move up, not excited at all about what Silva is doing. GSP is the only guy testing himself here. He should start with a 5 - 10 guy if he's serious about the move. Nothing super about this fight. Of course Silva wants GSP whether he wins or not. Silva should be fighting Wiedman. Waiting for this "super fight" is just another way for Silva to avoid his obligation as a champion. This may not cancel a card, but it's not much different that Jones. Wiedman actually earned the shot and he's being fucked over. |
Silva has already moved up and fought 2 guys at lhw and made them both look silly. He beat Griffin when Griffin was in top 5 I do believe and the largest lhw at the time. Also to write GSP off like he has no chance of beating Silva is just stupid.
Both of them are challenging eachother and its about time GSP moved up and fought someone bigger.
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09-05-2012, 09:26 AM
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People talk about silva being so my bigger and cutting tons of weight. Silva is like Rampage inbetween fights. The reason GSP only goes up to about 200 inbetween fights is because he always stays in shape, unlike silva who plants his ass on a stool in BK and eats his soul away till his next camp. Shit, Rampage starts camp at 250 and gets down to 205.
GSP is always fit, if he was to just take a long break from exercise, then he would balloon up to about 215 methinks.
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09-05-2012, 09:32 AM
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Oh yeah well Anderson's taller!
I don't think the size difference is that drastic. Yeah it's there, and Silvas long limbs and few extra pounds will be a slight edge at this level. Only slight though. Anderson's biggest weakness is the TDs and top control of dominant wrestlers. That has been the only real weakness he has shown. GSP has a shot but given Anderson's striking pedigree I still think it is only a slight one.
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09-05-2012, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by megamus lol you do know that the metric system IS the NORMAL measuring system. its the silly Americans who think they are too cool for school and have to be different.
and I know we Canadians are really nice but digging a big hole to burry a Brazilian might be going too far, we will leave that to his people. |
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09-05-2012, 09:52 AM
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Anderson should vacate the MW title then. If we're talking 2013, that's what, one MW title defense in 16 months, with more viable contenders than there has been in years?
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Originally Posted by IceCold48 I feel like this fight is not as exciting as it would've been two years ago | two years ago, both fighters had effectively cleared out their divisions and it would have worked much better than having Georges face Hardy and Anderson face Maia--neither of whom deserved the ink on the promotion posters, never mind a title shot.
Much like Chuck/Wandi, this is two years too late for me to give a shit about it, beyond disappointment that two titles will be put on hold to satisfy Anderson's vanity that he's capable of beating someone smaller than him. Quote:
Originally Posted by Lesnar_FTW I think if they were the same size (not what they are at weigh in or anything like that), I think GSP would beat Silva, but Silva has too much size on GSP and I think as a result will win if this fight happens. | It doesn't matter. Anderson fans don't consider size advantages when assessing p4p anyway, so a win over Georges will "prove" his p4p dominance, just like Georges beating Penn proved it.
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Originally Posted by AnchorPunch He actually enters the octagon at well over 190, around 195-ish if I recall. He's absolutely massive for WW and extremely dense, just doesn't get fat and balloon in the off season. | Georges comes into the cage around 190, Anderson comes in around 205. Their respective size advantages in their respective weight classes are pretty much equal. It wouldn't be as big of a mismatch as if Anderson actually had the balls to fight Jones [and Jones actually had the balls to fight Anderson] but it's still a huge mismatch.
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09-05-2012, 10:18 AM
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This fight would interest me more if GSP wasnt fighting Condit first. I remember when GSP / Diaz was announced. I said then that I didnt think Diaz was the guy to beat GSP that I thought it was Condit, and I still feel this way.
If GSP can pull off the victory, then I am ok with the "super fight" over Silva vs Wiedman.
Out of all the MW Wiedman has done enough to be next in line. However impressive his victory over Munoz was, it was still against a guy coming off of a long layoff due to injury. And the Maia fight was good win but nothing Oh Shit spectacular. If it wasnt for the GSP I would definitely say Weidman is next. But I am ok with this then Weidman getting next.
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09-05-2012, 11:09 AM
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Why not just make this a MW title fight?
What is the real reasoning behind this?
5 pounds will not make that much of a difference for Silva.
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