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09-05-2012, 11:15 AM
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Yay watching a fight where one fighter doesn't even want the fight and was pleaded in to it.
No thanks.
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09-05-2012, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement Yay watching a fight where one fighter doesn't even want the fight and was pleaded in to it.
No thanks. | Didn't GSP come out recently and say he wanted to fight silva?
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09-05-2012, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by CtGreat Didn't GSP come out recently and say he wanted to fight silva? | Yes. Just recently. Doesn't that raise the question why now?
The talk of this fight happening has been going on for YEARS with GSP constantly stating that he didnt want to move up, didn't want to take the fight, etc.
The fight made sense 2-3 years ago, not so much now. The MW division is stacked and there are some new blood moving up the ranks at WW (Macdonald, Hendricks, Kampmann, Condit, Diaz, etc.)
So why all of a sudden is GSP like "sure lets fight"?
I'm sure Dana is on his ass about it and he's finally caving in.
The fight is POINTLESS. Whoever loses is toast, they're done as far as fans go. Anderson fans will go "See I told you!", GSP fans will go "You can't handle my riddum!" and nothing will be accomplished. Anderson is old, GSP is coming off of major knee surgery.
Just dumb.
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09-05-2012, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement Yes. Just recently. Doesn't that raise the question why now?
The talk of this fight happening has been going on for YEARS with GSP constantly stating that he didnt want to move up, didn't want to take the fight, etc.
The fight made sense 2-3 years ago, not so much now. The MW division is stacked and there are some new blood moving up the ranks at WW (Macdonald, Hendricks, Kampmann, Condit, Diaz, etc.)
So why all of a sudden is GSP like "sure lets fight"?
I'm sure Dana is on his ass about it and he's finally caving in.
The fight is POINTLESS. Whoever loses is toast, they're done as far as fans go. Anderson fans will go "See I told you!", GSP fans will go "You can't handle my riddum!" and nothing will be accomplished. Anderson is old, GSP is coming off of major knee surgery.
Just dumb. | Great post
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09-05-2012, 11:47 AM
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Here's a timeline if you will: 2010: Hardy: Time for change and GSP to move on - sportsnet.ca WAP Quote:
or his part, White is not too keen on St-Pierre moving up in weight and he is clearly down on putting St-Pierre and Silva together.
"Nobody loves a super-fight more than I did, believe me," he said. "I'd love to put on a super-fight and I was all about doing that fight, GSP versus Anderson, until I saw Anderson move up to 205 (pounds). I mean this guys looks like he belongs at 205. How does he make (1)85?
| AMADI: Georges St. Pierre's UFC 111 win highlights need for UFC's dominant Champions to move up in weight Quote: |
Georges St. Pierre is done at welterweight, and everyone, except GSP and Dana White, want to see him take on UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson Silva.
| Showdown Joe: The striking truth with GSP - sportsnet.ca WAP Quote:
With St-Pierre working diligently on adding lean muscle to his frame in an effort to gain more weight, Silva, ironically enough, mentioned he would like to cut down to 170 lbs, perhaps creating another option for the UFC to put together this mega-fight.
But GSP noted: "Nobody (from the UFC) talked about a fight with me and Anderson Silva, it was not the plan. Nobody came up to me and tried to make this fight happen ... If he wants to come down to 170 to fight me, maybe I'm not going to have a choice. I'm the title holder and at 170, I want to fight the best."
| 2011 GSP Sounds Like He Doesn’t Want To Fight Anderson Silva If Georges St. Pierre Doesn't Want Anderson Silva Fight, Should We? - MMA Fighting Quote: |
St. Pierre is telling everyone who will listen that he's not thinking about Silva, he's thinking about Shields. He said it at a press conference in Toronto last month. He told Ariel Helwani last week that he hasn't even started thinking about whether it's realistic to move up to fight Silva at middleweight. He told Steve Cofield this week that he views moving up to middleweight as "a complete change of my life."
| Georges St. Pierre Could Drop To Lightweight, But Doesn’t Want To 2012 GSP doesn't seem set on fighting Anderson, says Weidman is "at another level" - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums Quote: |
Who knows? I don't know. By the time I get there, maybe there's going to be a new other guy that will be the next big thing and I’ll be fighting that guy. Things go fast in mixed martial arts. You never know. There's a lot of guys that want to fight me.
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09-05-2012, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement Yes. Just recently. Doesn't that raise the question why now?
The talk of this fight happening has been going on for YEARS with GSP constantly stating that he didnt want to move up, didn't want to take the fight, etc.
The fight made sense 2-3 years ago, not so much now. The MW division is stacked and there are some new blood moving up the ranks at WW (Macdonald, Hendricks, Kampmann, Condit, Diaz, etc.)
So why all of a sudden is GSP like "sure lets fight"?
I'm sure Dana is on his ass about it and he's finally caving in.
The fight is POINTLESS. Whoever loses is toast, they're done as far as fans go. Anderson fans will go "See I told you!", GSP fans will go "You can't handle my riddum!" and nothing will be accomplished. Anderson is old, GSP is coming off of major knee surgery.
Just dumb. | Soo..when GSP had no legit challengers and the pressure from the fans was highest, he insisted that he didn't want to fight Silva. Yet now that he has a handful of challengers trying to get at his belt, and the fans aren't anywhere near as thirsty for this super fight; you think that GSP couldn't handle the pressure and gave in? Does that make sense to you.
Idk about you, but I'm inclined to nelieve that GSP is a very mature intelligent individual who wouldn't let emotion influence a career decision.
Lastly, how would this hurt GSPs career/make him toast? He is one of the most popular fighters in MMA and he would be an underdog. I don't think it would hurt his stock at all.
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09-05-2012, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by roaddawg Silva has already moved up and fought 2 guys at lhw and made them both look silly. He beat Griffin when Griffin was in top 5 I do believe and the largest lhw at the time. Also to write GSP off like he has no chance of beating Silva is just stupid.
Both of them are challenging each other and its about time GSP moved up and fought someone bigger. |
So you're saying it's about time Silva moved down and fought someone even smaller?
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09-05-2012, 12:28 PM
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Personally I do not think that this fight will happen.
Dana also said that if Anderson beats Maia, then GSP vs Anderson would happen. Anderson did beat Maia, but because of his distrespectful performance Dana said that GSP vs Aderson is not happening.
Condit is a legit threat to GSP, and GSP is coming from a very long layoff. I do not know if GSP is going to win the fight, and if he does, I doubt that it will be by some impressive way.
And secondly, the weigh stuff also is going to be an issue. GSP will not feel good fighting at 180, and I do not think Anderson is going to want the fight at 170. He would have to cut about 40 or 50 pounds, that is a lot.
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09-05-2012, 12:50 PM
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This fight is only intriguing if GSP was the one set on challenging Anderson. The only time any fight is interesting when it comes to two fighters from separate divisions is when the SMALLER guy wants to step up to the bigger guy.
We have been talking about this for years. Unless it's actually slated, I don't believe it's going to happen. I also agree with those who feel this fight has lost a lot of it's shine.
I'd rather see Silva/Weidman but I would be cheering for GSP 110% if this fight were made. However, it would be astonishing if GSP was the first one to etch Silva's name at the top of his list of UFC victories.
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09-05-2012, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CtGreat Soo..when GSP had no legit challengers and the pressure from the fans was highest, he insisted that he didn't want to fight Silva. Yet now that he has a handful of challengers trying to get at his belt, and the fans aren't anywhere near as thirsty for this super fight; you think that GSP couldn't handle the pressure and gave in? Does that make sense to you.
Idk about you, but I'm inclined to nelieve that GSP is a very mature intelligent individual who wouldn't let emotion influence a career decision.
Lastly, how would this hurt GSPs career/make him toast? He is one of the most popular fighters in MMA and he would be an underdog. I don't think it would hurt his stock at all. | I doubt GSP is letting Dana White tease and goad him into the fight. What both GSP and Anderson see is $$$. GSP still has a few years left in his career but this fight alone could support him for a decade with the PPV cuts.
With the massive marketing campaign known as UFC on Fox 5, I think we will see HUGE PPV numbers for this eventual card. The stars are in the process of aligning for this fight. I can only hope that Condit does not spoil the potential magnitude of the announcement. We could have ourselves a massive Superbowl card this year. Add Overeem to that same card.... AND GODDAMN... Sorry, I'm dreaming a little bit here.
Silva is not scared of Weidman, he is simply waiting for a better career opportunity. If and when GSP beats Condit, the card that has this fight has the potential to be a top 5 PPV seller.
I refuse to be cynical of this fight because it will be great publicity for MMA.
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