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[beardown98]

The way this is getting talked up i really doubt it will happen. I think Georges is more than happy going down as the greatest WW champion of all time.

If it happens i would be surprised and would happily pay for the PPV to watch it. I just don't think GSP's heart is in it right now.

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by rampage9712

sure... I think your counting this against him way too early... Dont treat it as though he wont fight weidman period... he will.

I don't really care what you think. I care what I think, and I think it's bullshit to delay the future of an entire division in MMA--a division that historically has been incredibly shallow and is finally showing signs of depth--to pursue a stupid vanity fight with a smaller opponent who doesn't even want the fight in the first place.

In reality, it does nothing for Anderson's legacy. When two fighters of roughly equal skill meet in a fight, the bigger fighter is supposed to win. If Georges was all fired up about it [ala Penn vs. GSP II] that's fine. But GSP is dragging his feet the whole time, and it's probably going to put two divisions on hold for the bulk of a year--two divisions who have suffered from lack of title fights as of late--while Anderson pursues a fucking useless vanity fight.

And that has nothing to do with fighting a much larger champion in the first place. AS shouldnt have to fight Jones... the same as GSP shouldnt have to fight AS. the size difference in both fights is more than notable in both cases.

I'm not saying that he should have to fight Jones. I'm not asking for him to fight Jones. I'm asking for him to fight middleweights, you know, the men in the division where he is supposed to be a champion?

I've found fault with his reasoning, in saying "well, I only want superfights" because Jones/Silva is a superfight. I've found fault with his reasoning in not wanting to face Jones because they're "too good of friends" because that's nonsense.

But I don't want him to fight Jones or GSP, because the MW division is primed right now. If his ego absolutely must drive him to needlessly fuck with the men who deserve a title shot right now, I'd probably understand it more if he was pursuing a vanity fight that would at least legitimately add to his legacy by facing a bigger fighter. But it's not.

He's challenging a guy he's bigger than. That's sad. There is no way around it. It's fucking pathetic.

And the UFC will treat us to more of the same bullshit smoke and mirrors marketing that they did for Penn/GSP, as though a bigger guy beating up a smaller guy is some great accomplishment and we'll hear p4p being misapplied and a bunch of other bullshit that will muddy the term even further.


I find vanity fights sad. I find them unbecoming of someone of Silva's accomplishments and skills.

rh

[roaddawg]

Originally Posted by rivethead

I actually hadn't heard that. I've heard dana say that GSP wanted to fight Anderson. Anything directly from GSP is new to me.


RUMOR ALERT: I heard ed soares was driving the car that hit Aldo on his motorcycle. It was all in preparation to leave Frankie Edgar without an opponent, so Anderson can step in and fight him to save that PPV as well.


What makes sense to me is the pressure dana can bring to bear, since Anderson has no interest in fighting anyone in the UFC except for Georges. dana knows it will be a blockbuster, and that his star "p4p best" is a diva who won't fight anyone he doesn't want to. So in order to get at least one fight out of Anderson in 2013--and in my opinion, it will be his last, because he'll retire if he wins--he has to cater to Silva's sad vanity. Thus, he has to pressure Georges into taking the fight. In dana's defense, he probably offered Georges a huge paycheck.

But honestly, if Anderson holds up the fucking MW belt to face a WW and then retires after the bout, I'll put a contract out on his ass.


Exactly. This is like schoolyard bully shit.

rh

Here you are since you like to be casually resourceful.
Zahabi: GSP wants Anderson Silva at a catchweight - Mixed Martial Arts News

[disposableassassin]

I like "vanity fight" that's the perfect way to describe that

We even have a venue for the after party

[KevoOnTheRadio]

Originally Posted by Sniggles

Like I said many times. Anderson is sitting around waiting for the results of GSP/Condit.

Let's not pretend it is a schoolyard bully fight or David vs. Goliath.

This is a BIG MONEY FIGHT that both fighters' children could live a life of not working with. A fight that would earn them a large percentage of their networth. 1/4 of what they currently have each at least.

These are champions we are talking about here. They are business first --- fighting second.

Great point. I'd love to see the hype this thing would get main stream.

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by roaddawg

Here you are since you like to be casually resourceful.
Zahabi: GSP wants Anderson Silva at a catchweight - Mixed Martial Arts News

so when soares says stupid shit, you state that it shouldn't be given credibility, it's just management being management...but then you post Georges' management being management like it's supposed to make this less of a debacle that will probably do nothing more than stroke Anderson's ego and his bank account.

Meanwhile, fighters in two divisions still have to go and train and prepare for fights that won't happen for another year or so.

Georges himself stated recently that he's not thinking of anything but Condit. He's not interested in superfights, he's interested in Condit.



rh

[roaddawg]

Originally Posted by rivethead

so when soares says stupid shit, you state that it shouldn't be given credibility, it's just management being management...but then you post Georges' management being management like it's supposed to make this less of a debacle that will probably do nothing more than stroke Anderson's ego and his bank account.

Meanwhile, fighters in two divisions still have to go and train and prepare for fights that won't happen for another year or so.

Georges himself stated recently that he's not thinking of anything but Condit. He's not interested in superfights, he's interested in Condit.



rh

Today’s “The MMA Show with Mauro Ranallo” podcast featured an interview with Firas Zahabi, head trainer at TriStar gym, who talked about a prospective super fight between Georges St-Pierre and Anderson Silva.

“Georges St-Pierre told me he wants (to fight Anderson Silva). But right now he has to get back on the horse and fight Carlos Condit and be champion again. He needs to keep focused.

“(If the Silva fight happens) ideally I’d like a catch weight. I think it’d be more fair. If you fight at a catch weight, Silva won’t be 20 pounds heavier. 177 or 178 pounds is much more fair.”

Source: http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news...a-catchweight/

Joe Silva knew about GSP and Silva wanting to fight eachother before Dana White even knew. Infact a reporter had to tell DW this (I believe I already posted video footage already).

At this point it doesn't matter what anyone thinks those two want to fight eachother. If GSP wins the fight is happening. There is no point in crying about it they will have their fight and you will get your very short fight with Weidman or Tim Bo.

[H0SS]

Georges St-Pierre Wants to Conquer Welterweight Division Before Fathoming Anderson Silva Fight

He believes there’s a lot of disrespect in even talking about an Anderson Silva fight when he has interim welterweight champion Carlos Condit standing directly in his path.

“It’s terrible. I hate that, but I’m not focusing on that. I’m not speculating,” St-Pierre told MMAWeekly.com. “I’m thinking about Condit right now; that’s what I should do.”

Since his injury, St-Pierre has watched a welterweight division he’s ruled with an iron fist over the last few years flourish in his absence. Not only has Condit moved into position as the interim champion, but Martin Kampmann and Johny Hendricks are now poised as No. 1 contenders who fight on the same UFC 154 card that St-Pierre fights on in his return to action.

Before anyone should even fathom a superfight between St-Pierre and Silva, the Canadian believes he still has a lot of work to do at welterweight.

“I feel like I have a lot of guys that are there and I don’t understand why people are going crazy now, but I just came back from an injury, so maybe some people see me as a weak link. We’ll see what’s going to happen in the future,” said St-Pierre.

There is even a video posted within the article today.

So you were saying RD...?

[macewen]

im glad GSP is looking past condit. George is a smart dude, carlos condit is step one...and id prefer to see him and nick, more then him n silva.

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by roaddawg

Joe Silva knew about GSP and Silva wanting to fight eachother before Dana White even knew. Infact a reporter had to tell DW this (I believe I already posted video footage already).

I believe I've already told you that soares is full of shit. I also believe you've told me in the past not to worry about what management says, but to only listen to Anderson himself...so why the sudden change of heart?

At this point it doesn't matter what anyone thinks those two want to fight eachother. If GSP wins the fight is happening. There is no point in crying about it they will have their fight and you will get your very short fight with Weidman or Tim Bo.

If it doesn't matter what anyone thinks, you can stop responding to every single one of my posts at any point now.



VANITY FIGHTS ARE BULLSHIT. HOLDING UP TWO DIVISIONS TO SATISFY VANITY IS BULLSHIT. A BIGGER FIGHTER CHASING A FIGHT WITH A SMALLER FIGHTER A DIVISION BELOW HIM IS BULLSHIT. BIGGER FIGHTERS ARE SUPPOSED TO BEAT UP SMALLER FIGHTERS, IT CAN'T POSSIBLY PROVE ANYTHING FOR ANDERSON'S CREDIBILITY, AND IT SUCKS THAT EVERYONE HAS TO WAIT FOR BULLSHIT THAT DOESN'T ULTIMATELY MEAN A DAMN THING.

rh