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Will you say the same if Anderson squares off with Jones after GSP?
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:26 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I believe I've already told you that soares is full of shit. I also believe you've told me in the past not to worry about what management says, but to only listen to Anderson himself...so why the sudden change of heart?
I don't think we are on the same page. This is what I am referring to in regards to my last reply.



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If it doesn't matter what anyone thinks, you can stop responding to every single one of my posts at any point now.
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VANITY FIGHTS ARE BULLSHIT. HOLDING UP TWO DIVISIONS TO SATISFY VANITY IS BULLSHIT. A BIGGER FIGHTER CHASING A FIGHT WITH A SMALLER FIGHTER A DIVISION BELOW HIM IS BULLSHIT. BIGGER FIGHTERS ARE SUPPOSED TO BEAT UP SMALLER FIGHTERS, IT CAN'T POSSIBLY PROVE ANYTHING FOR ANDERSON'S CREDIBILITY, AND IT SUCKS THAT EVERYONE HAS TO WAIT FOR BULLSHIT THAT DOESN'T ULTIMATELY MEAN A DAMN THING.

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What was the situation again with BJ Penn fighting GSP? The one where he hopped over everyone? Was that considered a vanity fight to you?


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Will you say the same if Anderson squares off with Jones after GSP?

Again Silva and GSP want to fight eachother. Jon Jones and Anderson Silva do not. Minus the fact that Silva and Jones don't train together as far as I know you have a better chance of seeing Shogun fight Wandy or Hendo Vs Sonnen.

It's just not happening and honestly why would you want to see them fight when Silva clearly said no Brazillian can beat Jon Jones? Silva is an Afro Brazillian...

Even if all the stars lined up and Silva fought Jones after GSP people who feel like Rivet will likely blow a gasket that Silva isn't defending his title at mw.
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Will you say the same if Anderson squares off with Jones after GSP?
I'd be even more disgusted if Anderson goes after Jones without defending his belt, and it would be even worse if it impacts the LHW title defenses. On the one hand, it would be a little bit more reasonable, in that a smaller fighter would be calling out a larger fighter and have actual p4p implications, but my main concern is that belts get defended.

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I don't think we are on the same page. This is what I am referring to in regards to my last reply.
So you post a dana white vid instead of soares, because dana isn't every bit as absolutely full of shit as soares? Thanks for proving my point that you have no reading comprehension, once again.

You, your drug-addicted little self, have stated not to criticize Anderson for anything soares says, to go to the source directly before anyone holds him accountable. But then you post vids of soares and dana as though their opinions matter at all.

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What was the situation again with BJ Penn fighting GSP? The one where he hopped over everyone? Was that considered a vanity fight to you?
Have you read anything that I've said? Go back and scan, I'm pretty sure I mention something to the point of BIGGER FIGHTERS ARE SUPPOSED TO BEAT SMALLER FIGHTERS. When a bigger fighter calls out a smaller fighter, it is a punkass move. If you're in a bar and a bigger guy starts pushing and poking a smaller guy, it doesn't make him tough. It makes him a bitch. Anderson should be much, much more than a bitch at this point.

So Penn--a smaller fighter--chasing Georges--a larger fighter--is a huge difference between Anderson chasing GSP. Couple in the fact that Penn has not only fought at Georges' weight before [Georges has never fought at MW] but he was a previous title holder at WW, and arguably had beaten Georges in a controversial fight previously.

The two can only be compared by people who don't know what they're talking about.

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Even if all the stars lined up and Silva fought Jones after GSP people who feel like Rivet will likely blow a gasket that Silva isn't defending his title at mw.
He can fight all the vanity fights he wants until he's toddering around with a walker for I care. But he should vacate the MW belt in order to chase his ego.

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He can fight all the vanity fights he wants until he's toddering around with a walker for I care. But he should vacate the MW belt in order to chase his ego.
I have always felt and vocally stated that fighters who switch divisions should immediately vacate their titles unless it's done as a fill-in. Exhibition fights are below a champion and damage the divisions.

Champions shouldn't entertain grudge matches outside of their weight class unless it runs deep enough to vacate a title.
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I have always felt and vocally stated that fighters who switch divisions should immediately vacate their titles unless it's done as a fill-in. Exhibition fights are below a champion and damage the divisions.

Champions shouldn't entertain grudge matches outside of their weight class unless it runs deep enough to vacate a title.
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Anderson's management knows that he doesnt have that long left, they want to milk their cash cow for what he is worth... Poor Soares needs a new house...

Anderson has said very little on this subject himself... Often praising GSP...

but lets just assume he is trying to "bully" GSP...

Also is Fedor a bitch for wanting to fight Linland and Hendo...
Is GSP a bitch for fighting BJ and Serra... 2 guys that even could fight below LW if they wanted to...

but at the same time Jones is criticized for not wanting to fight Anderson or Sonnen... If he did, he would probably be called a bully anyways... you cannot win with some of these fickle fans.
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Anderson's management knows that he doesnt have that long left, they want to milk their cash cow for what he is worth... Poor Soares needs a new house...

Anderson has said very little on this subject himself... Often praising GSP...

but lets just assume he is trying to "bully" GSP...

Also is Fedor a bitch for wanting to fight Linland and Hendo...
Is GSP a bitch for fighting BJ and Serra... 2 guys that even could fight below LW if they wanted to...

but at the same time Jones is criticized for not wanting to fight Anderson or Sonnen... If he did, he would probably be called a bully anyways... you cannot win with some of these fickle fans.
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I'd be even more disgusted if Anderson goes after Jones without defending his belt, and it would be even worse if it impacts the LHW title defenses. On the one hand, it would be a little bit more reasonable, in that a smaller fighter would be calling out a larger fighter and have actual p4p implications, but my main concern is that belts get defended.
You're usually disgusted at everything Silva and his camp does outside of his win against Vitor.

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So you post a dana white vid instead of soares, because dana isn't every bit as absolutely full of shit as soares? Thanks for proving my point that you have no reading comprehension, once again.
Ofcourse I did because its relevant to GSPs multiple confirmations that he wants to fight Silva. Yet again we see this as evidence by the posting on this sites front page. But you're probably right maybe everyone is a liar and GSP never agreed to fight Silva.

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Have you read anything that I've said? Go back and scan, I'm pretty sure I mention something to the point of BIGGER FIGHTERS ARE SUPPOSED TO BEAT SMALLER FIGHTERS.
That is not always the case nor is your scenario realistic as proven by fighters like Aldo, Edgar, Fedor, Mike Tyson, Rashad Evans, Henderson. The most skilled fighter should win and GSP very much has a chance at out wrestling Silva. Silva would be a bitch if he picked on a fighter whom he knew had zero chance at beating him. GSP is his most danagerous opponent to date imo. So to you I will tell you something you probably have heard from your wife, "Size isn't everything". Stop trying to make GSP seem like he is some wimpy dog being forced into a fight with a bully. You are not doing him any favors at all and I'm not buying into that bs. Im sure your followers likely will.

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So Penn--a smaller fighter--chasing Georges--a larger fighter--is a huge difference between Anderson chasing GSP. Couple in the fact that Penn has not only fought at Georges' weight before [Georges has never fought at MW] but he was a previous title holder at WW, and arguably had beaten Georges in a controversial fight previously.
This is perhaps the reason why GSP wants to fight Silva at a catchweight.... once again.


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The two can only be compared by people who don't know what they're talking about.
Mr. Defensive you were being asked a question on what you consider to be a vanity fight.


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He can fight all the vanity fights he wants until he's toddering around with a walker for I care. But he should vacate the MW belt in order to chase his ego.

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Ahhh so now he has an ego because he wants to challenge himself against one of the best fighters on the planet. Make sense to me. Lets see what was that shit you said to rampage the other day, "Sometimes when a fanboy feels too passionate about something their view can be distorted"? My logical assumption is that the reverse is also true. You hate/dispise/dislike Silva and his camp so much your view is quite distorted. I'm always intrigued how you can be so critical over other people's shit yet you can't even see past your owns.
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UFC President Dana White today told HDNet's "Inside MMA" that not only is an Anderson Silva (32-4 MMA, 15-0 UFC) vs. Georges St-Pierre (22-2 MMA, 16-2 UFC) bout looking more and more likely if "GSP" can defeat Carlos Condit but that Silva vs. Jon Jones (16-1 MMA, 10-1 UFC) could very well happen, too.

"As you start to get to a point where Anderson is in his career – he's beat everybody, he's broken every record in UFC history – if he wins against Georges St-Pierre, I guarantee you he'll be eyeballing Jon Jones next," White said.
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That fight was once considered the most noteworthy matchup possible in MMA, and White has even gone on-record stating the 100,000-seat Dallas Cowboys Stadium would likely serve as host. Of course, Jones' meteoric rise up the light heavyweight ranks, not to mention his historic 2011 and sometimes-Silva-like movements in the cage, have led many fans and pundits to move beyond a potential Silva vs. St-Pierre fight in hopes of seeing Silva vs. Jones. Both the middleweight and light heavyweight title holders have gone one record in opposition of such a matchup while citing mutual respect and legacies as reasons not to make the fight.

Of course, Silva has also said that at 37 years old, he's only interested in the biggest fights possible – and this would certainly fit that description.

And as White notes, not all declarations of intent are binding. Just ask Rashad Evans.

"Anderson and Jones are saying, 'Hey, we're buddies,' or 'We don't want to fight' or whatever the deal is," White said. "But [Jones] didn't want to fight Rashad either, and that happened."

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More surprising.....it's about Anderson Silva....
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