That wont end well for Anderson if it holds true... I highly doubt he will fight for that long though...
As for weidman, that fight will happen eventually... If he beats Boetch... then there is no case to be made as to why he doesnt deserve a title shot...
To make Anderson and camp happy, the UFC should also put on a big Co-Main event to draw in more PPV buys, to make up for Weidman's lack of draw... although they should be doing that in the first place... Instead of banking cards around just the main event...
put someone like Machida, Penn, etc in the co-main or even a title fight at one of the smaller classes.
As far as "better challenges?" How about whoever wins from the rankings?? Boetch is well ranked, Weidman is well ranked. They'll fight, a contender will be established. Then you and Silva will cry that whoever it is "isn't worthy." But it doesn't matter, this is a sport and the rankings are what they are.
Boetsch is actually ranked, as opposed to Belcher is a more accurate way to state it. If Weidman went and beat Belcher, Anderson fanboys would immediately point out that Alan was unranked and that he should need to beat another ranked fighter while Anderson goes calls out BJ Penn or something.
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To make Anderson and camp happy, the UFC should also put on a big Co-Main event to draw in more PPV buys, to make up for Weidman's lack of draw...
Oh, please. It's not Zuffa's job to make Anderson happy. If Anderson is so worried about money that he'll let it drag his legacy into the mud, it's his ow fucking job to sell PPV's and nobody else's. Silva has nobody to blame but himself for not being a better draw; he speaks English and he's got to be smarter than that team of village idiots he calls managers and allows to speak for him.
Weidman would be a better draw than half of the fighters Anderson has happily faced.
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Oh, please. It's not Zuffa's job to make Anderson happy. If Anderson is so worried about money that he'll let it drag his legacy into the mud, it's his ow fucking job to sell PPV's and nobody else's. Silva has nobody to blame but himself for not being a better draw; he speaks English and he's got to be smarter than that team of village idiots he calls managers and allows to speak for him.
Weidman would be a better draw than half of the fighters Anderson has happily faced.
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Actually its his managements job to get him the most money possible... but we all know how much they get trashed for that...
And the UFC should be stacking the cards in the first place... that is not too much to ask for by any means, as it should be done in the first place... but the UFC has been trying to sell the main event vs. the entire card a few times in recent memory.
And yes, if he did speak English and did more to get himself exposure, it would help him become a bigger draw.... earning him more $. that is his fault for not doing that.
Boetsch is actually ranked, as opposed to Belcher is a more accurate way to state it. If Weidman went and beat Belcher, Anderson fanboys would immediately point out that Alan was unranked and that he should need to beat another ranked fighter while Anderson goes calls out BJ Penn or something.
Oh, please. It's not Zuffa's job to make Anderson happy. If Anderson is so worried about money that he'll let it drag his legacy into the mud, it's his ow fucking job to sell PPV's and nobody else's. Silva has nobody to blame but himself for not being a better draw; he speaks English and he's got to be smarter than that team of village idiots he calls managers and allows to speak for him.
Weidman would be a better draw than half of the fighters Anderson has happily faced.
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Weidman is not a better draw than GSP. Period.
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No, but he IS a middleweight, and one who has earned a title shot. Unlike Georges on both accounts.
Silly me, I thought champion's were expected to face the best fighters in their respective divisions in order to show that they're still the best. If they're just looking for someone to fight to make money, why doesn't Anderson beat up Charlie Sheen or one of those mooks from the Jersey Shore? Those would sell big $$ in PPV. I'm pretty sure they could use the work, too.
This just in: after extensive research that indicated Charlie Sheen and the mooks from Jersey Shore are, indeed, much smaller to Anderson Silva and do not pose a significant threat, ed soares has contacted their respective management to propose super fights throughout 2013 and 14.
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Obviously because noone gives a rats ass about Charlie Sheen nor was he at any point in MMA history ever considered G.O.A.T. There were times on HDNet where they had GSP ranked solidly behind Silva if not rank 2.
Silva has more title defenses than Weidman has fights. For the same reason Weidman doesn't want to fight Belcher Silva's camp doesn't want to fight Weidman.
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On Weidman (the guy that thinks hes too good to fight Belcher) hopefully he will be made short work of by someone so we can move on to better challenges for Silva.
Weidman is the one. He has the best tools out of anyone Silva has faced to defeat him.
Obviously because noone gives a rats ass about Charlie Sheen nor was he at any point in MMA history ever considered G.O.A.T. There were times on HDNet where they had GSP ranked solidly behind Silva if not rank 2.
You're really trying to make this work, and it just isn't logical.
For instance, lets say that Fedor came to the UFC, and he wanted to fight Georges, because Georges was once considered the GOAT. It would be bullshit then, and it's bullshit now.
It would even be bullshit for Fedor to have come to the UFC and not want to fight Cain right now, but to want to fight Anderson. Because Fedor is bigger than Anderson. So regardless of how you want to spin it, you've still got a bigger fighter picking a fight with a smaller fighter who has shown no interest in taking it. It's a vanity fight, and it's bullshit.
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Silva has more title defenses than Weidman has fights. For the same reason Weidman doesn't want to fight Belcher Silva's camp doesn't want to fight Weidman.
Belcher is unranked. He's not even top 10 right now. Weidman is ranked. He's the #1 contender. There is a huge difference in a #1 contender not wanting to fight an unranked fighter but accepting a fight with a top 5 contender in the division and a champion not fighting anyone at all while he waits for a fighter in a lower division to determine if he'll fight or not.
If Georges did this with Condit, or even Nick Diaz so he could wait to fight Ben Henderson nobody would defend him. And nobody would be 100% correct, because it's indefensible. Because vanity fights are bullshit, regardless of how much money they're worth. You missed the point of the Charlie Sheen reference. It wasn't about Charlie. It was about creating a spectacle for the sake of sales that isn't good for the sport as a whole.
Bigger fighters are supposed to beat up smaller fighters. It's kind of like in a geometry test where they tell you the measurement of an angle. They call that a given.
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You're really trying to make this work, and it just isn't logical.
For instance, lets say that Fedor came to the UFC, and he wanted to fight Georges, because Georges was once considered the GOAT. It would be bullshit then, and it's bullshit now.
It would even be bullshit for Fedor to have come to the UFC and not want to fight Cain right now, but to want to fight Anderson. Because Fedor is bigger than Anderson. So regardless of how you want to spin it, you've still got a bigger fighter picking a fight with a smaller fighter who has shown no interest in taking it. It's a vanity fight, and it's bullshit.
Why are you still pretending that GSP has no interest when there are other videos that suggest otherwise? If GSP didn't want this fight he could pull a Jon Jones and say hell no to Joe Silva. The fight simply wouldn't happen in the same manner that Silva is saying hell no to Jon Jones. You know how GSP is. He absolutely will not look beyond his current opponent and he shouldn't but regardless he has expressed equal interest. Please don't make it sound like GSP is being bullied into fighting Silva.
If GSP wins then watch the post fight against Condit (we all know what Rogan is going to ask him). I will bet just about anything he publically goes on record on his quest to fight Silva.
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Belcher is unranked. He's not even top 10 right now. Weidman is ranked. He's the #1 contender. There is a huge difference in a #1 contender not wanting to fight an unranked fighter but accepting a fight with a top 5 contender in the division and a champion not fighting anyone at all while he waits for a fighter in a lower division to determine if he'll fight or not.
If Silva didn't wait this fight which was suppose to happen after he beat Sonnen and GSP beat Shields would never happen. If those two are going to do this they need to do it while both are on a winning streak. A fight with either of the two if either lost wouldn't be as marketable.
Its now or probably never and make no mistake fans want to see this fight.
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If Georges did this with Condit, or even Nick Diaz so he could wait to fight Ben Henderson nobody would defend him.
If GSP and Ben Henderson were on a tear hell I would want to see it especially with their wrestling and striking backgrounds. Although I will admit I would want to see Nick Diaz vs GSP more because he is a former champion with a proven track record. I haven't even bothered to look this up but does GSP have more title defenses than Diaz has fights? I am guessing no.
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And nobody would be 100% correct, because it's indefensible. Because vanity fights are bullshit, regardless of how much money they're worth. You missed the point of the Charlie Sheen reference. It wasn't about Charlie. It was about creating a spectacle for the sake of sales that isn't good for the sport as a whole.
It wouldn't be any more of a spectable than Couture Vs Machida and James Toney (which by far was much worse)? Hell Fedor fighting Hong Man Choi and Zulu was also bullshit but it was fun to watch (vanity or freak fight).
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Bigger fighters are supposed to beat up smaller fighters. It's kind of like in a geometry test where they tell you the measurement of an angle. They call that a given.
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So what would be the purpose in Silva fighting Jon Jones or do you disagree with these two fighting. Would this not be a vanity fight?
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