"I'm with you on the instant replay. Every other major sport has instant replay. Fighting needs to do it. Especially with how bad the officiating has been: judges and reffing. Instant replay -- that's it. They got this thing with combat sports, these athletic commissions have this thing where it's like, once a guy makes a decision, it can't be overturned. It's insane! Guys are gonna make a mistake! You can't be at all the angles. You can't see everything. This sport is so young. There's a lot of guys that are unqualified to ref and judge this sport. Instant replay makes sense, and it'd be awesome, because the thing that people don't understand is, once you make a decision, and it's a bad call, that's this guy's life...forever. It's a career changer. You make a mistake in a baseball game, and there'll be 190 more opportunities to make up for it. They'll be okay! You make a mistake in fighting, and it hurts this guy immensely.
It has to get better. If it doesn't, everybody's in trouble. I consistently call people out, and we're doing everything we can to try and stop this from happening. I think it's one of the worst things that can happen, if a guy loses a fight, that didn't really lose that fight. It effects their money. It effects everything. I mean, Jon Jones has a loss on his record that isn't right. That wasn't a loss. He should be undefeated right now. We should be able to go out and promote Jon Jones as the undefeated, undisputed Light Heavyweight champion, but we can't, because there was a guy reffing a fight that didn't belong there."
MMA does need instant replay, but the heads at NSAC are so narrow minded that they feel comfortable with how they have operated their commission so I don't see it happening anytime soon. Speaking of which, what happened with the judges watching fights through monitors? I remember they hooked them up for a show, but they never turned them on.. I feel as though monitors are a good idea.
I think it's unfair for Dana to be hating on Mazagatti so much. Every ref fucks up; there's no question about that. It's like when Mazagatti screws up, Dana goes ape shit on twitter and the post fight press conference, but when Herb Dean messes up, we don't hear shit from Dana.
Regarding Mazagatti's decision to DQ Jones in the Matt Hamill fight, I think he should have stopped the fight before Jones threw those illegal elbows, but I guess he fairly gave Hamill every chance to survive as he looked like he was doing a decent job of protecting himself..then the fight got stopped fairly because of the illegal elbows.. So I guess it's just one of those moments where it could have gone either way...
I like the idea. It wouldn't have changed the outcome of jones/hammil fight. Jones threw illegal strikes. They weren't what caused Matt to not be able to continue but they were still illegal.
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I guess my question is where does it fit in to MMA?
After a fight is stopped, then do they look at the replay, and maybe start it over? That would not fair to the guy who just won.
I think we should start with training the refs and judges better and giving the judges TV monitors so they can see the small tactical moves happening with a clear view.
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There are places for it and others where it would hurt. Judges yes all the way around it may add some time at the end of the fight, but believe it does way more good than harm.
REF's limited times one yes was a Irwin fight were he thaught he got poked in the eye and requested time out, and replay showed it was a kunkle thus declared a loss for Irwin. Any time the fight is stopped for time to recover it should be reveiwed. To stop a fight just to review it hell NO.
I do think a ref on a cam and one in the cage would be good. Give the ref communication between them either see's something quickly review and relay info for a proper call in the cage.
Brock Coutor fight, Brock hit Randy behind the ear[illegal blow] knocking him down. A ref on a cam should of seen it relayed it stopped the fight and given Randy a recovery time instead of a loss.
In the end ref's and judges still needs much more education to properly do there job with or with out monitours.
There are places for it and others where it would hurt. Judges yes all the way around it may add some time at the end of the fight, but believe it does way more good than harm.
REF's limited times one yes was a Irwin fight were he thaught he got poked in the eye and requested time out, and replay showed it was a kunkle thus declared a loss for Irwin. Any time the fight is stopped for time to recover it should be reveiwed. To stop a fight just to review it hell NO.
I do think a ref on a cam and one in the cage would be good. Give the ref communication between them either see's something quickly review and relay info for a proper call in the cage.
Brock Coutor fight, Brock hit Randy behind the ear[illegal blow] knocking him down. A ref on a cam should of seen it relayed it stopped the fight and given Randy a recovery time instead of a loss.
In the end ref's and judges still needs much more education to properly do there job with or with out monitours.
Maybe I should have been more specific. I meant in situations like bad stoppages. Erik Silva's last DQ loss comes to mind. If his corner were able to challenge that, maybe the ref would have changed the ruling.
I totally agree that they shouldn't be able to stop a fight just to check a replay. That would be just plain foolish.
However, your example of Lesnar vs Couture isn't a very good one. A punch behind the ear is perfectly legal.
I think the problem is that instant replay would be very difficult to incorporate into a fight, it would take all the momentum out of the fight. its not like the NFL where the coach can throw a flag to stop it and have a kick reviewd to see if it actually landed. the only thing i could see them using instant replay for is illegal blows, like a kick to the junk before a point deduction.
we need better judging and better refs, they need specific MMA experience and should have to pass a pretty tough enterance exam, they need to know what techniques are and what to look for.
what about putting judges in rooms in the back with monitors, no sound, no distraction, no other influence, just looking at the fight rather than being cage-side with a limited view and a ton of noise pollution.
the replay should be used for reffing and judging fuck ups, they should take them into the back after the fight sit them down and have them explain why the made a paticular decison and have someone spell out thier mistakes with video evidence.
White: Instant replay would be 'awesome' 
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