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[roaddawg]

Originally Posted by Masscore

By not bringing in one legit boxer to show him hand speed is, something he has never faced in his MMA career. It is one thing to spar it is another thing to actually deal with a guy that has the speed of Belfort. I doubt anyone at Greg Jackson's even comes close to it.

What does Silva do when he needs to train for Sonnen? Oh he calls a national championship level wrestler in Mark Munoz to come in and train with him. That is what you call being smart and not overlooking your opponent.

Is Belfort training with fighters who have a simliar height and reach advantage of Jones or is he only training with Rashad (we know how that fight ended)? Also what did Sonnen do to train for Silva?

Perhaps Jones (much like Sonnen against Silva) has every intention on putting Vitor on his back and keeping him there. One could argue this would neutralize Vitor's offense.

Just a thought though maybe Jones' isn't taking this one seriously but I have never known him to not take any opponent serious. Infact Jon has done quite the opposite for every fight which would explain his past performances.

Originally Posted by CtGreat

Maybe Jones just really believes in his striking coaches?

I dont remember him saying that he brought in any specialized people to help him face Evans, Machida, Rampage, Henderson, or even Shogun; why are people acting like Jones is disrespecting/overlooking Vitor's skill set by not changing up his camp?

Jones' isn't giving them the reaction they expected. I think many are bothered by his "deserved" confidence.

[disposableassassin]

Originally Posted by CtGreat

Maybe Jones just really believes in his striking coaches?

I dont remember him saying that he brought in any specialized people to help him face Evans, Machida, Rampage, Henderson, or even Shogun; why are people acting like Jones is disrespecting/overlooking Vitor's skill set by not changing up his camp?

i don't remember him saying that he didn't either.

Originally Posted by roaddawg

Jones is giving them the reaction they expected. I think many are bothered by his unrelenting arrogance.

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[SimpleJack]

Look, Jones has seen handspeed and solid boxing from Rashad. That's clear.

What he hasn't seen is someone who is as committed to boxing and pressure as Vitor. Machida's elusive but he mixes things up and then gets out. Rashad is a 1-2 punch, step away guy as well. Rampage is a counter-puncher and Shogun just wades in with his chin down and begs to eat a knee (like he did). Bader still hasn't translated boxing to being a seamless part of his game; it looks like it requires effort for him to transition between wrestling and boxing.

In the past, Vitor's had trouble with guys who hold him down and grind on him (Couture, Ortiz, and Hendo) and I would think that's why Jones focused on the offensive portion of this fight.

In the end, I think he blows Vitor out but there is ALWAYS that potential of getting clipped like Franklin did.

2 things that I think should certainly be noted here are that a depleted and very tight looking Rumble gave Vitor a lot of trouble and Overeem's height didn't give him a lot of trouble; although Overeem fights shorter than he is and Vitor used body locks and clinches to get him on the ground.

[CtGreat]

Originally Posted by disposableassassin

i don't remember him saying that he didn't either.





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The journalist asked him the question though, which is why he brought it up. Jones specifically said that he doesn't believe in looking for new people to be the answer; yet, somehow that is being interpreted as arrogance by people here. I don't recall him ever being asked in the past if he brought in anyone special. Infact, for the shogun fght, I remember him saying that he was the one imitating shogun to help Evans prepare.

Eh, Im done trying to rebuttal posts about Jones,

[disposableassassin]

Originally Posted by CtGreat

Eh, Im done trying to rebuttal posts about Jones,

Trolling people who rebuttal posts about chicken bones jones is where it's at.

[Kimbo> Rampage]

It would be very hard to find someone who could truly emulate Vitor... Not that his boxing is so elite... It is just a very unique style... You wont find may boxers that can or would fight like that... it is very flawed.

He typically moves in straight line, back and forth, not too much lateral movement.

Not much of an Angles guy... He has tightened his game a bit since his come back, he isnt as wild anymore, although we do see him go back to that in some of his fights....

He is very patient at first, but once he lands 1 shot, he comes forward... full speed and throws caution to the wind... being very hard to defend because of his phenomenal speed... but he is also very open to counters when doing that.

Jones has a huge reach advantage and I see that being very hard for Vitor to get past... and even if he does, he gets thrown and put out.

I do see him as a bigger standup threat than Hendo however... Dan has huge power but Vitor's speed is more dangerous in my book. Especially against someone like Jones... But then again Vitor doesnt have Dan's chin either so its hard to say with everything considered.

Jones has been working on his knees lately, I see Jones catching Vitor with a flying knee when he rushes inside, straight down the pipe.... Or just take him down and elbow him to a TKO...

Vitor is with the right team now... Training with Evans, AO, T. Silva, AJ, Spong, etc... but at this point it is not enough.

[roaddawg]

Originally Posted by CtGreat

The journalist asked him the question though, which is why he brought it up. Jones specifically said that he doesn't believe in looking for new people to be the answer; yet, somehow that is being interpreted as arrogance by people here. I don't recall him ever being asked in the past if he brought in anyone special. Infact, for the shogun fght, I remember him saying that he was the one imitating shogun to help Evans prepare.

Eh, Im done trying to rebuttal posts about Jones,

They are just going to skim what he says and twist it around anyways.

[RearNakedStroke]

Originally Posted by W.Silva>C.Norris

No, its probably you, and your crappy opinions.

You're probably right. My memory probably served me wrong and I'm sure most of your 1000+ posts mirrored that well thought out gem that I quoted.

On topic, Jones doesn't need to bring in any special trainers to fight Belfort. Any decent boxing coach can replicate fast hands. They might not have knockout power behind them but sparring partners aren't going to be throwing knockout punches at Jones anyway. ]

This was just a backhanded comment toward Belfort for bringing in Evans to train and the haters bit on it.

[RearNakedStroke]

Originally Posted by disposableassassin

Trolling people who rebuttal posts about chicken bones jones is where it's at.

Just post like 30 or so more pictures and they'll get it.