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10-11-2012, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Fe1  As far as the article goes, I'm not a real big fan of Anderson, GSP, or Jones so no nuthuggery going on here but there is no way in hell that Jones is at the same level as the other two. | Jones isn't top 5. Maybe barely top 10, but not even close to top 5 p4p.
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10-11-2012, 05:09 PM
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What the fuck is this? | I wondered the same thing Lol
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10-11-2012, 05:15 PM
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I think the comparison for Jones to other people in the P4P talks is difficult. What makes it so hard, for me at least, is him specifically being a LHW. We talk about Aldo, GSP and Anderson and its easy to predict their success at a weight class above what they fight in and in Andersons case, he has proven his ability to compete and beat fighters that are fighting above MW. We see Aldo and think he could hang with Bendo, GSP would be a great fight with Anderson and obviously Anderson v Jones would be a dream and a coin flip in most peoples minds. However, if we think of Jones stepping in against JDS, Cain or Overeem it seems crazy to think he could take any of them. The difference is soo prevalent from LHW to HW that it handicaps Jones likelihood of success at this point like it seems possible for other current champs and makes his case for a top P4P seem silly. But his success against someone like JDS or Cain is like comparing GSP stepping in against Machida, Shogun or Jones. Should he be in the talks for top P4P, it really is a tough call, but i think he gets less credit that he should due the weight jump for him to compete at the next weight class and his long reach.
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10-11-2012, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by rivethead Jones isn't top 5. Maybe barely top 10, but not even close to top 5 p4p.
rh | Curious as to who you have ahead of him outside of GSP and Silva and why ?
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10-11-2012, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rivethead Jones isn't top 5. Maybe barely top 10, but not even close to top 5 p4p.
rh | He doesn't belong in the same sentence as gsp or silva right now. Maybe when he finally goes to his weight class and shows size isn't all he has.
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10-11-2012, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 1inthechamber He doesn't belong in the same sentence as gsp or silva right now. Maybe when he finally goes to his weight class and shows size isn't all he has. | 
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10-12-2012, 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Rise Curious as to who you have ahead of him outside of GSP and Silva and why ? | Aldo and Edgar are both more skilled, without question. I could make arguments for others, but I don't have time this morning.
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10-12-2012, 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by rivethead Aldo and Edgar are both more skilled, without question. I could make arguments for others, but I don't have time this morning.
rh | we talking all time, or active? Cain jumps immediately to mind, JDS as well, Hendo ranks higher...
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10-12-2012, 05:12 AM
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I think Dana is correct here. He explained his position well and made very good points.
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10-12-2012, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by W.Silva>C.Norris we talking all time, or active? Cain jumps immediately to mind, JDS as well, Hendo ranks higher... | if I was talking all time, Jones certainly wouldn't make top 10.
currently active, I'd probably put him around 7 or 8.
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