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Jones must have gotten that new nightlight for his bedroom. I guess a chael fight isnt as scary when there's a lot less chance of it actually happening.
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And the other part of me is scared
Do you guys really believe that? Do you really believe the UFC Light Heavyweight Champion, who has fought and beaten Bonnar, Shogun, Machida, Belfort, Evans, and Bader, is scared of Chael Sonnen? Really?
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Yes Chael needs a few wins first before he get a shot at the title. BUT! this is the UFC and there is a very good chance that he might get one after beating Forrest lol.
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thats how i see it playing out, and as a bones/sonnen fan im 100% fine with it
...other than sonnen beating Forrest, that's how I see it playing out.


And as an MMA fan, I am 100% disgusted by it.

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Do you guys really believe that? Do you really believe the UFC Light Heavyweight Champion, who has fought and beaten Bonnar, Shogun, Machida, Belfort, Evans, and Bader, is scared of Chael Sonnen? Really?
...my son still believes in Santa Claus. Then again, he's 4.

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...my son still believes in Santa Claus. Then again, he's 4.

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What are you saying Riv?

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...other than sonnen beating Forrest, that's how I see it playing out.


And as an MMA fan, I am 100% disgusted by it.



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2 questions;

How do you see the forrest vs sonnen fight going? IMO chael wins a UD but a UD that is very similar to the one he had against Marquardt.

and last question;

Why are you disgusted by it? He's beat bisping,stann,marquardt,okami, miller and assuming he beats forrest you can add him to the list. He also is the only person on the UFC roster that has come even remotely close to beating the best fighter to ever step foot on the planet in AS, that has to count for something.

Would he be getting the fast track to the title if he beats Forrest? Sure, but its happened before and im sure it will happen again.

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Why are you disgusted by it? He's beat bisping,stann,marquardt,okami, miller and assuming he beats forrest you can add him to the list. He also is the only person on the UFC roster that has come even remotely close to beating the best fighter to ever step foot on the planet in AS, that has to count for something.



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Not to speak for RH, but I don't believe fights in one division should effect his ranking in a another division.
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Not to speak for RH, but I don't believe fights in one division should effect his ranking in a another division.
So if AS wanted a shot at Bones for the belt would he be at the back of the line at 205? or would his fights against James Irvin, Forrest and now bonnar be enough to get him a shot?

It seems like its a double standard for some fighters but not others. Rankings are opinion based at best, my 205 rankings could be different from yours, or RH's or even Joe Silvas.

Its these "rankings" that are killing good potential fights, ie Glover vs. Shogun (and anyone else for that matter who tunred down that fight because he wasnt a big enough draw)

Jones said something that i dont really agree with as well;

""A part of me wants to do it for the fans the other part of me feels as if it delegitimizes the importance of [a] championship," Jones tweeted.""

Delegitimizes the importancve of a championship? How so? Because he doesnt fit into your "rankings" yet fighting Vitor doesnt do the exact same thing?

For me it goes like this; Your the champion, you fight anyone that calls out your name. Thats the great thing about being champion, you have what everyone else wants, and if you arent willing to give everyone a shot at the belt then you shouldnt be the champion

maybe im oldschool or however you want to put it, thats just how i feel

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So if AS wanted a shot at Bones for the belt would he be at the back of the line at 205? or would his fights against James Irvin, Forrest and now bonnar be enough to get him a shot?

It seems like its a double standard for some fighters but not others. Rankings are opinion based at best, my 205 rankings could be different from yours, or RH's or even Joe Silvas.

Its these "rankings" that are killing good potential fights, ie Glover vs. Shogun (and anyone else for that matter who tunred down that fight because he wasnt a big enough draw)

Jones said something that i dont really agree with as well;

""A part of me wants to do it for the fans the other part of me feels as if it delegitimizes the importance of [a] championship," Jones tweeted.""

Delegitimizes the importancve of a championship? How so? Because he doesnt fit into your "rankings" yet fighting Vitor doesnt do the exact same thing?

For me it goes like this; Your the champion, you fight anyone that calls out your name. Thats the great thing about being champion, you have what everyone else wants, and if you arent willing to give everyone a shot at the belt then you shouldnt be the champion

maybe im oldschool or however you want to put it, thats just how i feel

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But the difference is Silva has fought and won at LHW in the UFC. And while I think a win against Bonnar wouldn't earn Silva a hypothetical title shot, it would put him a fight away. Sonnen on the other hand hasn't won a fight at LHW in the UFC. At all. I'm not opposed to him getting a fight with Bones, I just think he should have to do more then beat Forrest Griffin to get it.

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and if you arent willing to give everyone a shot at the belt then you shouldnt be the champion
So by that logic if Joey Beltran called out Bones, he would be obligated to fight him.
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Make the fight happen. The fans want to see it.
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Saying that Sonnen deserves a shot at the belt with a win over Forrest Griffen, is even more crazy as saying that Bisping deserves a shot at Silva after a fight with Stann.
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