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[rivethead]

Originally Posted by carbondioxide830

we want anderson/jones, but anderson and jones dont want that. anderson wants gsp, but gsp doesnt want anderson. weidman wants anderson, but anderson doesnt want weidman. bisping wants anderson and anderson kinda wants bisping. yet i'm still wondering how this will all play out.

I think it plays out with Anderson fighting Bisping, because it makes more money. And all the Anderson fanboys who have discredited Weidman as not having done enough will find some nonsense--like Bisping has more fights than Anderson has defenses--some desperate way to convince themselves that their hero isn't a diva who has been ducking fights for years.

He's undeniably talented. He's a valid consideration for GOAT. But he's a diva who ducks legitimate fights to take the easier road whenever he can.

rh

[grambino]

Originally Posted by rivethead

I think it plays out with Anderson fighting Bisping, because it makes more money. And all the Anderson fanboys who have discredited Weidman as not having done enough will find some nonsense--like Bisping has more fights than Anderson has defenses--some desperate way to convince themselves that their hero isn't a diva who has been ducking fights for years.

He's undeniably talented. He's a valid consideration for GOAT. But he's a diva who ducks legitimate fights to take the easier road whenever he can.

rh

He's talented for sure, but outside of Hendo, Franklin and Vitor I don't believe he's beaten any elite fighters. Mostly nobodies. There's a reason that even in his own country they don't think of him as the greatest of all time. F@ck, most great fighters at the end of their careers are openly begging to fight the best guys out there before they leave. Not this guy, he's openly declaring his plan to avoid any dangerous fights on his way out.

I clearly don't understand the UFC fight process. Am I wrong to assume that the UFC can say he's facing Weidman and then he has to? It seems like the Dana would release a profanity laced statement declaring his intentions for champions to fulfill their obligations to the belt and uphold the integrity of both the UFC and MMA. I don't think healthy fighters should have the option to refuse a fight.

[IrishX(aka bornbear)]

Anyone else upset with those "Amazing" commercials hyping up Silva as someone who will fight "anyone, anytime, anywhere"? .... yeah right.

How can Silva fans defend this I don't know.

[The Donosaur]

Originally Posted by IrishX(aka bornbear)

Anyone else upset with those "Amazing" commercials hyping up Silva as someone who will fight "anyone, anytime, anywhere"? .... yeah right.

How can Silva fans defend this I don't know.

Hey they had to make use of the Hendo promo for his fight against Bones, somewhere right? They just used it in the wrong place.

[AnchorPunch]

He's just keeping the buzz going to sell out massive numbers when he does fight Weidman, right after he fights Bones as his next-to-last fight.

Ahhh, who am I kidding? It'll be Bisping and then Irvin II.

[Y2JUBAE]

Originally Posted by 1inthechamber

This is my biggest issue with Silva, he likes playing matchmaker. He didn't want the Hendo or Marquardt rematches, he didn't think Belfort should fight him either, he didn't want the sonnen rematch, doesn't want to fight Jones, and wont fight the next guy in line Weidman but I he wants Gsp or even a fight with Bisping.

He's earned his right to have "fun" matches in different weight classes but don't hold the title hostage if you don't intend on defending it.

Chael got the rematch. Guess what. Anderson was right! He destroyed him just like he would have destroyed Hendo and Nate. He destroyed Belfort. Playing matchmaker?

It's fucking pointless to argue for Anderson on here. He beats anyone they put in front of him, and instead of getting credit, people come on here and say "Oh but if you give this loser one more chance, he will beat him NEXT TIME!".

Always "next time". I find it twilight zone fucking crazy that the loser of the fight gets more credit than the winner based on what he may or may not do "next time". I think the Chael Sonnen rematch showed what happens when somebody gets that "next time" fight.

Originally Posted by IrishX(aka bornbear)

Anyone else upset with those "Amazing" commercials hyping up Silva as someone who will fight "anyone, anytime, anywhere"? .... yeah right.

How can Silva fans defend this I don't know.

No, just butthurt mma fans who at some point witnessed their favorite fighter get destroyed by Anderson and think "next time" it will be different.

[NLRepublic]

Anyone have any guesses as to what Anderson will do after these 2 fights? Will he retire, or sign again I wonder?

This is definitely a bit of a mess, because I feel like GSP wants nothing to do with Anderson. GSP never wanted Anderson on Friday, before Anderson destroyed a man that is 50 pounds larger and 7 inches taller than GSP is, so I'm sure he really doesn't want him now

The fight to make is Anderson/Jones for sure. But if there isn't going to be a super fight, I don't know who else at 185 makes more sense than Weidmen

[grambino]

Originally Posted by Y2JUBAE

No, just butthurt mma fans who at some point witnessed their favorite fighter get destroyed by Anderson and think "next time" it will be different.

I'd agree that may be the case at times, but for a lot of fans of the sport we just want to see a great fighter wanting to be great. I honestly believe even the biggest Silva haters will acknowledge he's a great talent.

The discourse comes when the declarations of great champion are being made. Most fans just don't want to hear a champion saying anything other than "I'll fight anyone, anytime". Silva always seems to be telling us why fighters don't deserve a shot, meanwhile he takes and asks for pointless vanity fights as rh describes them. His recent statements are the most inflammatory and most telling. He's not a fool to fight Weidman, he's a fool to make those statements.

I don't believe he's afraid of Weidman. I think he's afraid of losing the title at the end of his career. He wants to retire as an undefeated fighter in the UFC and he'll do it by whatever means necessary at the end. This is entirely unbecoming of a great champion. Still a great fighter, just not a great champion.

[1inthechamber]

Originally Posted by Y2JUBAE

Chael got the rematch. Guess what. Anderson was right! He destroyed him just like he would have destroyed Hendo and Nate. He destroyed Belfort. Playing matchmaker?

It's fucking pointless to argue for Anderson on here. He beats anyone they put in front of him, and instead of getting credit, people come on here and say "Oh but if you give this loser one more chance, he will beat him NEXT TIME!".

Always "next time". I find it twilight zone fucking crazy that the loser of the fight gets more credit than the winner based on what he may or may not do "next time". I think the Chael Sonnen rematch showed what happens when somebody gets that "next time" fight.



No, just butthurt mma fans who at some point witnessed their favorite fighter get destroyed by Anderson and think "next time" it will be different.

Almost everything you posted is just opinion, unless that is you're Miss Cleo's cousin or something. Nobody's trashing Silva's skill but his politics on choosing opponents (he doesn't exactly choose them but they whine when they get offered a match he doesn't like).

Its almost the same as Fedor not coming to the UFC to fight the best guys in the world, I'd bet you probably bashed Fedor over this like 80% of the mma community did.

As for Chael fight, he really beat himself imho. Look at rd 1, if it was for that stupid backfist, we'd probably have a new mw champion.

If you are the number 1 p4p fighter in the world and your division champion, act like it and stop being a fucking diva.

[Sakara=Excitement]

Originally Posted by Y2JUBAE

Chael got the rematch. Guess what. Anderson was right! He destroyed him just like he would have destroyed Hendo and Nate. He destroyed Belfort. Playing matchmaker?

It's fucking pointless to argue for Anderson on here. He beats anyone they put in front of him, and instead of getting credit, people come on here and say "Oh but if you give this loser one more chance, he will beat him NEXT TIME!".

Always "next time". I find it twilight zone fucking crazy that the loser of the fight gets more credit than the winner based on what he may or may not do "next time". I think the Chael Sonnen rematch showed what happens when somebody gets that "next time" fight.



No, just butthurt mma fans who at some point witnessed their favorite fighter get destroyed by Anderson and think "next time" it will be different.

Holy shit stick. Literally everyone is saying how GREAT Anderson is in his abilities as a fighter!

It has to do with the way he goes about match making campaigns. No one is saying he's scared, no on is saying he's ducking people. But it's the never ending SHIT that accompanies him.

Like I said in an earlier post, let him fight God for all I care, just vacant the MW title and then he doesn't have to defend it against the #1 contender so he then can focus on other bigger fights.