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[Sakara=Excitement]

Originally Posted by dbader08

You always appear here as well, just for the opposite reasons lol

The thing is, I didn't say anything that wasn't true. Nick is fairly immature and is a pothead.

Two true things.

[rivethead]

...so, if Diaz [a WW] has no chance against Anderson [a MW]; why would Anderson and his camp want to fight him?

I just don't understand the logic.

rh

[v3xi]

Originally Posted by v3xi

Anderson should jump at this fight because it would be another easy win via hand picked opponent that falls right into his skillset AND Diaz is a really big name.

You disagree with this RH?

[Sniggles]

Nick Diaz vs. Anderson Silva makes less sense than Sonnen vs. Jones.

[dbader08]

Originally Posted by Sniggles

Nick Diaz vs. Anderson Silva makes less sense than Sonnen vs. Jones.

False...

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

The thing is, I didn't say anything that wasn't true. Nick is fairly immature and is a pothead.

Two true things.

I wouldn't really say he's immature. He's had his unprofessional moments, sure...but it's not like he's doing steroids...and how many people have done/do steroids that just haven't been caught...

[Sakara=Excitement]

Originally Posted by dbader08

False...



I wouldn't really say he's immature. He's had his unprofessional moments, sure...but it's not like he's doing steroids...and how many people have done/do steroids that just haven't been caught...

So all the things Nick has done from missing multiple press conferences, missing a charity BJJ tourney, fighting other fighters in hospitals, cussing people out and flipping people off, blaming everyone but himself for his wrong doings is just unprofessional yet someone who does steroids is immature?

[Sniggles]

Diaz would fair as well as Chris Leben did against Anderson.

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

So all the things Nick has done from missing multiple press conferences, missing a charity BJJ tourney, fighting other fighters in hospitals, cussing people out and flipping people off, blaming everyone but himself for his wrong doings is just unprofessional yet someone who does steroids is immature?

I think you can define maturity in different ways. Diaz quit high school to focus on fighting so he could provide for his mother and brother. He could have sold rock, he could have done a lot of things to make sure they had a roof and food, but he chose to train and fight. That's been his #1 priority throughout his career.

To me, providing for family is a sign of maturity. He places their value above all else.

Certainly, he could play the game more effectively. He has no excuse for missing the UFC pressers, and it cost him the title shot as a result. But I don't know that I'd call that immaturity, I'd say it's at least as likely that it was his anxiety disorder that played a role.

With a very different perspective on maturity, I'd say someone like sonnen could be called into question for deliberately trolling the MMA community. But again, he's doing it with the end result of cashing-in firmly lodged in his mind, so the same criteria used with Diaz can be applied there.

I guess when I think of immature, I think of someone in their late 20's living in their mom's basement, or a kid having their parent's put them through college while they drink and smoke their way through the week and don't go to class, etc. Someone who lets other people provide for them while they do nothing productive with their lives.

I don't think Diaz is immature. I do think he probably smokes too much, and while it's been shown to help ADHD in some cases, it's probably not doing his anxiety disorder any favors, although I'm just guessing: I'd have to spend time with him in order to speak with any shreds of authority on the subject.

rh

[MIZjitsZOU]

Originally Posted by rivethead

I think you can define maturity in different ways. Diaz quit high school to focus on fighting so he could provide for his mother and brother. He could have sold rock, he could have done a lot of things to make sure they had a roof and food, but he chose to train and fight. That's been his #1 priority throughout his career.

To me, providing for family is a sign of maturity. He places their value above all else.

Certainly, he could play the game more effectively. He has no excuse for missing the UFC pressers, and it cost him the title shot as a result. But I don't know that I'd call that immaturity, I'd say it's at least as likely that it was his anxiety disorder that played a role.

With a very different perspective on maturity, I'd say someone like sonnen could be called into question for deliberately trolling the MMA community. But again, he's doing it with the end result of cashing-in firmly lodged in his mind, so the same criteria used with Diaz can be applied there.

I guess when I think of immature, I think of someone in their late 20's living in their mom's basement, or a kid having their parent's put them through college while they drink and smoke their way through the week and don't go to class, etc. Someone who lets other people provide for them while they do nothing productive with their lives.

I don't think Diaz is immature. I do think he probably smokes too much, and while it's been shown to help ADHD in some cases, it's probably not doing his anxiety disorder any favors, although I'm just guessing: I'd have to spend time with him in order to speak with any shreds of authority on the subject.

rh

QFT!

I think the term "pothead" as Sak uses it is derogatory and fighter bashing. Lets compare the Phil Baroni = douchey because of his shirtless antics to Nichk Diaz = pothead due to his disability. Shame on you and your double standards (half way kidding).

RH - as a person with anxiety issues I would say there is not a lot of medical research out their (definitive) with the benefits of marijuana and stress from anxiety. I do believe Pot can relieve stress, as it has before in my case.

Sakara would you call a cancer patient a "chemohead".

If they do Diaz vs Anderson then they should do it on the same night as Jones vs Sonnen. It could be UFC164? "Battle of the title fights that make no f'ing sense."

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by MIZjitsZOU

RH - as a person with anxiety issues I would say there is not a lot of medical research out their (definitive) with the benefits of marijuana and stress from anxiety. I do believe Pot can relieve stress, as it has before in my case."

It depends on the individual, and if you want them to move past a chemical dependency. There is research that indicates it can make social anxiety symptoms worse in the majority of individuals, profoundly in some cases.

Obviously, it's going to relieve stress and anxiety while the cannaboids are active, but it can increase paranoia as they metabolize in many individuals, and increase concerns when individuals are placed in situations where smoking is not an option.

There is also concern about negative impact on neuropathway development in individuals younger than late 20s that I think trumps positive effects for younger users.

For some people it works great. But a lot of the information users get is anecdotal, and there isn't a lot of concrete research done.

I don't know Diaz personally, I don't know anything about his condition expect what he's stated in interviews, or have any tangible idea about how much he smokes. If I was stuck beside him on a bus, I'd rather have him be high than the alternative...but I'm betting if I worked with him long term, I'd be looking to reduce his intake and get him to work on anxiety via alternative methods.

rh