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[LefthookStcrook]

Originally Posted by v3xi

Rampage will destroy any striker that doesn't leg kick him to death. It doesn't matter if the fighter is throwing looping hooks or not, Page is an amazing technical boxer and IMO the best in MMA right beside BJ. If Glover can't take Page down he is going to get his ass kicked.

Hahaha What are you talking about dude Rampage doesn't instantly murder guys if it stays standing.

-Dan Henderson did just fine, In a fight Rampage used TDs to narrowly win.
-Keith Jardine did just fine in a fight that never hit the mat.
-Lyoto Machida did just fine, in a fight where Rampage used his grappling to narrowly win.
-Matt Hammil did just fine standing with Rampage, considering hes got about 5 years boxing experience.
-and Ryan Bader did just fine in the stand up.

Theres 5 guys who have done just fine while Rampage was standing, minimal leg kicks as well. Not including the 2 guys to beat the piss out of him, Jones and Forrest and thats 7 lol. Amost the whole top 10 can/could hang with Rampage just fine while standing.

Basically you should have said " Rampage will destroy any striker who doesnt leg kick him to death, but they got to be named Wanderlei or Chuck!"

Maybe back in 04-05 when......wait nevermind lol.

Yeah Rampage isnt some awsome stand-up beast like hype videos would suggest. Hes got 3 finishes in 6 years, thats 11 fights. Frankie Edgar actually has the same amount or more finishes in the same time span lol.

Rampage October 2005-Current = 4 Finishes
Frankie October 2005-Current =6 Finishes.

OMGZ What a Beast!!!

[v3xi]

Originally Posted by LefthookStcrook

-Dan Henderson did just fine, In a fight Rampage used TDs to narrowly win.
-Keith Jardine did just fine in a fight that never hit the mat.
-Lyoto Machida did just fine, in a fight where Rampage used his grappling to narrowly win.
-Matt Hammil did just fine standing with Rampage, considering hes got about 5 years boxing experience.
-and Ryan Bader did just fine in the stand up.

1) You cant name just 1 thing that he did in a 25 minute war, Hendo also has the best chin in MMA and is one of the best in general
2) Jardine is also a good striker who almost got KO'd at the end of the fight
3) Until the last 2 minutes Page was doing better at the standup vs Machida than almost every person on the planet. You need good striking to be able to get close to Machida, you act as if getting to the point where you can grapple with him is easy to do
4) Hammil and Bader are wrestlers, when on the feet with wrestlers you are employing different tactics such as not over extending yourself to avoid being taken down

I never said he was going to knock out Glover.

[joeodd2]

I wanna see Rampage vs Sonnen Dammit!!!!

[LefthookStcrook]

Originally Posted by v3xi

1) You cant name just 1 thing that he did in a 25 minute war, Hendo also has the best chin in MMA and is one of the best in general
2) Jardine is also a good striker who almost got KO'd at the end of the fight
3) Until the last 2 minutes Page was doing better at the standup vs Machida than almost every person on the planet. You need good striking to be able to get close to Machida, you act as if getting to the point where you can grapple with him is easy to do
4) Hammil and Bader are wrestlers, when on the feet with wrestlers you are employing different tactics such as not over extending yourself to avoid being taken down

I never said he was going to knock out Glover.

Oh Yeah Ive seen all the fights, You just made it seem like an anybody who stands with Rampage is going down, which is not the case.

Hes had the "strikers edge" in alot of his fights, Jardine/Hammil/Bader/Forrest but he still coudnt do much with it. In all honesty I thought Rampage would KO all of those guys and more....crazy what hype will make you beileve.

Rampage is just a boxer, and not the most technical one like you discribe(imo anyways), And others with less striking experience have done just fine standing with him. You can chaulk it up to whatever you want, Im saying Rampage striking hasnt evolved, while others are vastly improving.

So basically Rampage has to fight a LHW, who doesnt have any wrestling base that could throw Rampage off, he cant fight anybody who uses legkicks. And the opponent has to be a pure striker?

Quite the list of "what ifs" there.

And it still doesnt chance any stats/facts like Rampage only has three UFC KOs(Eastman,Liddell,Wandy), Two are gone from the face of the earth, the other is on a downhill side.

[v3xi]

Originally Posted by LefthookStcrook

Oh Yeah Ive seen all the fights, You just made it seem like an anybody who stands with Rampage is going down, which is not the case.

Never said that. What the fuck are you talking about?

Hes had the "strikers edge" in alot of his fights, Jardine/Hammil/Bader/Forrest but he still coudnt do much with it. In all honesty I thought Rampage would KO all of those guys and more....crazy what hype will make you beileve.

Only one of those fighters is a striker and he won. Crazy what hype will make you believe? You sound like an idiot.

Rampage is just a boxer, and not the most technical one like you discribe(imo anyways), And others with less striking experience have done just fine standing with him. You can chaulk it up to whatever you want, Im saying Rampage striking hasnt evolved, while others are vastly improving.

Others with less striking experience but are good at other things. My original comment stands. You are just bringing other things into a discussion that have no validity. This is about Glover vs Page and people saying Page has no chance.

So basically Rampage has to fight a LHW, who doesnt have any wrestling base that could throw Rampage off, he cant fight anybody who uses legkicks. And the opponent has to be a pure striker?

Quite the list of "what ifs" there.

Which is why I think hes going to beat Glover. What point are you trying to make other then you don't know how to read a 3 line comment?

"Rampage will destroy any striker that doesn't leg kick him to death. It doesn't matter if the fighter is throwing looping hooks or not, Page is an amazing technical boxer and IMO the best in MMA right beside BJ. If Glover can't take Page down he is going to get his ass kicked."

Thats all I ever said and you've typed 30 lines of bullshit about things I was never even talking about.

And it still doesnt chance any stats/facts like Rampage only has three UFC KOs(Eastman,Liddell,Wandy), Two are gone from the face of the earth, the other is on a downhill side.

He sent Liddel off the face of the Earth. Until that point Liddel was invincible but I guess if you hate Rampage you'll just downplay that. Where did I say Page was a KO artist? Someone that stands and just throws punches is going to get destroyed by Page. All this bullshit you typed and it has nothing to do with the simple comment I made.

[lwbrewer]

Rampage got his hype from a chain and howling than he got the big slam and he was all the hype. Page was a tough guy, but the money and fame have softened him up. He hasn't made good decissions since he won the title. I will give him credit for the Jones camp, but still lacked the proper trainner for the game plan. Page has lost for to many dumb reasons all after he tried to manage himself. I don't ever expect to see the Page who beat Chuck. His mouth is spewing checks his body can't cover anymore.

[Cat--Smasher]

Chael Sonnen replies to “Rampage” Jackson’s insults

“If I could understand a single word (Jackson) said about me I might be mildly offended,” wrote Sonnen on Twitter this week in response to a series of insults Jackson made in a recent interview. “Hard to hear “Rampage” all the way from the bottom of his pit of obscurity. Ya know, I was wrong about your acting ability. Calling me out was your best performance yet.”

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[disposableassassin]

Originally Posted by Cat--Smasher

Chael Sonnen replies to “Rampage” Jackson’s insults



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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Pit of obscurity. Hahahahahahaha. Best performance yet. Hahahahahahahaha.

[H0SS]

Originally Posted by v3xi

Where did I say Page was a KO artist? Someone that stands and just throws punches is going to get destroyed by Page. All this bullshit you typed and it has nothing to do with the simple comment I made.

He's just pointing out that Rampage's one dimensional style is not something you should be bragging about. You look kinda silly when you claim your fighter is amazing if the scenario is perfect.

That's like talking about how badass Brock Lesnar would be if only his opponents didn't have good striking or any takedown defense.

[Fe1]

Originally Posted by H0SS

He's just pointing out that Rampage's one dimensional style is not something you should be bragging about. You look kinda silly when you claim your fighter is amazing if the scenario is perfect.

That's like talking about how badass Brock Lesnar would be if only his opponents didn't have good striking or any takedown defense.

I am the greatest fighter of all time... But only if my opponent is blindfolded... And I have a bat.