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10-25-2012, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by H0SS  He's just pointing out that Rampage's one dimensional style is not something you should be bragging about. You look kinda silly when you claim your fighter is amazing if the scenario is perfect.
That's like talking about how badass Brock Lesnar would be if only his opponents didn't have good striking or any takedown defense. | If Rampage didnt have good wrestling he would be one dimensional... We wouldnt be talking about him now...
Watch his fight with Randallman, Lindland, Hendo, Evans, Jones... Watch his takedown ability/tdd throughout his career. Quote:
Originally Posted by LefthookStcrook -Dan Henderson did just fine, In a fight Rampage used TDs to narrowly win.
-Keith Jardine did just fine in a fight that never hit the mat.
-Lyoto Machida did just fine, in a fight where Rampage used his grappling to narrowly win.
-Matt Hammil did just fine standing with Rampage, considering hes got about 5 years boxing experience.
-and Ryan Bader did just fine in the stand up. | -Dan continually initiated the clinch with Rampage, His gameplan was to use his wrestling against Rampage...
-Keith also "did just fine" against Liddell, Forrest, Mousasi, Bonner, Vera, Evans.... They must all be piss poor strikers as well
-Machida is one of the best strikers in the game... He was very tentative against Rampage... For good reason, he didnt want a repeat of his fight before that, where he got KO'd by Shogun... Rampage certainly has the power to make opponents cautious... Machida is very technical, quick, and accurate... He didnt hit rampage with anything until the 3rd.. Rampage won the first 2 rounds based on his aggression, positioning and takedown.
-Matt Hammil literally shot on rampage the entire fight... He didnt even attempt to engage rampage... He kept going for it, but rampage stopped every attempt...
-Rampage had a blown knee in the Bader fight... Oh wait I forgot, a blown knee has no impact on a fight Source: internet dummy who never trained or fought a day in their life
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10-25-2012, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by rampage9712 If Rampage didnt have good wrestling he would be one dimensional... We wouldnt be talking about him now...
Watch his fight with Randallman, Lindland, Hendo, Evans, Jones... Watch his takedown ability/tdd throughout his career.
-Dan continually initiated the clinch with Rampage, His gameplan was to use his wrestling against Rampage...
-Keith also "did just fine" against Liddell, Forrest, Mousasi, Bonner, Vera, Evans.... They must all be piss poor strikers as well
-Machida is one of the best strikers in the game... He was very tentative against Rampage... For good reason, he didnt want a repeat of his fight before that, where he got KO'd by Shogun... Rampage certainly has the power to make opponents cautious... Machida is very technical, quick, and accurate... He didnt hit rampage with anything until the 3rd.. Rampage won the first 2 rounds based on his aggression, positioning and takedown.
-Matt Hammil literally shot on rampage the entire fight... He didnt even attempt to engage rampage... He kept going for it, but rampage stopped every attempt...
-Rampage had a blown knee in the Bader fight... Oh wait I forgot, a blown knee has no impact on a fight Source: internet dummy who never trained or fought a day in their life | B B B B bbbbut Hammil and Bader kicked Page's ass at stand up!!
I wouldn't even respond to that trash, I made one simple comment about Page vs Glover and they come out of the woodwork to fighter bash.
If Page fought everyone like he fought Hendo he would be able to beat anyone in the LHW division other than Jones. So much wasted potential and he still was champ and had a title defense.
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10-25-2012, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by v3xi B B B B bbbbut Hammil and Bader kicked Page's ass at stand up!!
I wouldn't even respond to that trash, I made one simple comment about Page vs Glover and they come out of the woodwork to fighter bash.
If Page fought everyone like he fought Hendo he would be able to beat anyone in the LHW division other than Jones. So much wasted potential and he still was champ and had a title defense. | Yep... Evans and Machida at their best would be very tough fights for Rampage as well... but Im not sure id put Shogun or Hendo above him... Looking at their past 2 fights and especially if they fought him the way they fought each other in the "fight of the year"...
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10-25-2012, 10:00 AM
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10-25-2012, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Cat--Smasher | As I stated earlier in the beginning of the thread, Rampage should have been Forrest's new opponent. I understand people want Griffin/Bonnar III, but a rematch between Rampage and Forrest makes more sense. It's a fight that would motivate both guys. Rampage wants to avenge a loss that he felt he should have won and Forrest gets to prove that the win was no fluke.
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10-25-2012, 10:13 AM
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Why should Rampage get what he wants in his last fight after taunting and mocking the owners?
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10-25-2012, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Sniggles Why should Rampage get what he wants in his last fight after taunting and mocking the owners? | Because they are scumbags.
Seriously though, Forrest is like UFC's posterboy and Page is on his way out. I don't think they would want to risk a Forrest loss to someone not sticking with the company.
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10-25-2012, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MMA4EVERRR As I stated earlier in the beginning of the thread, Rampage should have been Forrest's new opponent. I understand people want Griffin/Bonnar III, but a rematch between Rampage and Forrest makes more sense. It's a fight that would motivate both guys. Rampage wants to avenge a loss that he felt he should have won and Forrest gets to prove that the win was no fluke. | Im really beginning to think that as far as Dana and the UFC are concerned, Forrest is damaged goods. Maybe not physically, but emotionally.
I dont think denying rampage this fight is Zuffa "screwing" rampage on his way out. there are a lot better ways for them to do that. If they really wanted to screw him, he'd be a "free on facebook" fight for his last fight, and vs the janitor, or the brooklyn brawler from the ol' WWF, or something. They wouldnt be booking him against an up and comer like glover, and looking to slot him into a co-main.
I think Rampage screws himself a lot more then his employer screws him.
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10-25-2012, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rampage9712 If Rampage didnt have good wrestling he would be one dimensional... We wouldnt be talking about him now...
Watch his fight with Randallman, Lindland, Hendo, Evans, Jones... Watch his takedown ability/tdd throughout his career. |
I think you misunderstand. The Rampage that fought Hendo... that guy was a fucking beast and a world beater. But that was over half a decade ago.
He uses his wrestling defensively, but it is no longer a tool in his arsenal.
I mean, even when he is losing a striking battle due to his opponents mixing up kicks with their punches... do you think he'll A) go for a takedown or B) continue to stand there and imitate Frankenstein's monster?
Whether it is because of pride, injuries, or old age... he is now a one-dimensional threat.
Rampage's wrestling is like Gurgel's BJJ...
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